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Old Dec 6, 2005 | 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Saki GT,Dec 6 2005, 01:22 PM
Sixty percent is close, but the latest numbers have that Apache/Unix servers are on 70% of servers these days, but MS is growing quarterly thanks mainly to German companies.

There used to be a day when well over 90% of servers ran Unix. All the biggest players all still use Unix - Google, Yahoo and Amazon among them.
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I don't think you can attribute all 70% of Apache servers to Linux though. Probably 5-10% of Apache users are running something else.
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Old Dec 6, 2005 | 12:33 PM
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Yeah, I lumped everything under Unix at 70% - but I got that from Netcraft too.
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Old Dec 6, 2005 | 12:48 PM
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i believe a majority of computer users who dont have much experience besides basic operations such as word processing and simple browsing the internet are the ones that people target because theyre the ones that will click on links or download thing that more experienced users would know to get away from. like people who fell for that nigerian shit obviously dont have much clue about the world of computers outside their own desktop so theyre not aware of malicious shit that could affect them. and im pretty sure a majority of those types of users and microsoft users.

as for the xbox shit. i wouldnt be too pissed off cause thats expected when you cram so much technology into something and throw it out to the world because demand is so high that you want to make an insane profit. i WOULD feel shitty if i was one of those crazy people buyin xbox's on ebay for like $2000
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Old Dec 6, 2005 | 03:15 PM
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Wow, totally off topic but to chime in...

You guys are both correct. Its easy to write hacks for MS products because the coding is... well crap. Most MS products have holes larger than Greenbays defensive line. They could spend the time to correct major holes in the OS and other MS products but they are cheap bastards who would rather correct the issue only when an loop hole becomes exploited.

As a hacker its easier to work on something with such large holes. Not to say that any OS is virus proof or hacker proof for that matter. MS has a grip on a large share of the makert for home users... stupid home users at that...

As for the Xbox 360, well mine has had no problems at all. Sure the thing gets hot enough to leave burn marks on my wooden entertainment center, but it plays my 360 games like a champ! No problems at all!
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Old Dec 6, 2005 | 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by jasonw,Dec 6 2005, 03:45 PM
If you look at the OS design, you will see that Linux and OS X are far less susceptible to viruses. And forget about spyware -- non-existent! And if you think they can't do anything, look at which OS 60% of the internet is run on.
Okay so they get viruses, must be junk. Spyware does exist, called sniffers for linux. Forget about it, no one wants to sniff a linux computer because its usually loaded with crap . Which OS is used most often to view the internet?

The major problem is that users are morons nothing more nothing less, never got a virus never got spyware for more than a day and now I never get it at all.
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Old Dec 6, 2005 | 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by exceltoexcel,Dec 6 2005, 05:02 PM
Okay so they get viruses, must be junk. Spyware does exist, called sniffers for linux.
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Do you have any idea what a sniffer is???? It is completely unrelated to spyware and is for inspecting TCP/UDP network traffic. Any network connection can be "sniffed". It doesn't mean you will get useful info though.
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Old Dec 6, 2005 | 04:52 PM
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But you can this and other programs that can infultrate linux and unix security measures. There are viruses for unix and linux, enough to prove that they have security issues as well. There are anti-spyware programs for unix which makes me wonder if there isn't a case or two of spyware progams written on linux.
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Old Dec 6, 2005 | 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Drunken_Monk,Dec 6 2005, 04:15 PM
They could spend the time to correct major holes in the OS and other MS products but they are cheap bastards who would rather correct the issue only when an loop hole becomes exploited.
You know, this brings up a good point. M$ just doesn't have the incentive to be as secure as their competitors...just like Intel doesn't have to be as cheap/fast as AMD to compete. They both use their pre-existing status to make sales instead of competing solely on price/performance or in this case being the most safe/stable.
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Old Dec 6, 2005 | 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by exceltoexcel,Dec 6 2005, 05:52 PM
But you can amoung other programs that can infultrate linux and unix security measures. There are viruses for unix and linux and enough to prove that they have security issues as well. There are spyware programs for unix which makes me wonder if there isn't a case or two of spyware progams written on linux.
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Old Dec 6, 2005 | 04:55 PM
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The holes are there but the developers that write code don't care about unix and linux and that is the only reason why you think they are more secure.
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