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Old May 24, 2010 | 09:09 PM
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37293743/ns/business/

IMO this is bullshit, so youre telling me these dousche bags rape and kill innocent children, many are repeat offenders and "time" is all they get?

I say we take these worthless politicians and feed their children to these monsters and see if their tunes change any.

I know you CU will say im too brutal here, but if you have children, who would you rather see dead? The repeat child murder or your own children? Monsters like this can not be rehabilitated, it makes my sick....
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Old May 24, 2010 | 11:07 PM
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First convicted offense , shoot them. As a hunter I would love to sight in for the season by taking a few out with my 7MM. Sell me some tags Arnold you incompetent idiot.

A good friend of mine used to sight his rifle in Vietnam by waiting for his targets to take a dump in the field and then shoot their balls off.

And so the Republik of Kalifornia continues to be the laughing stock of the nation.
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Old May 24, 2010 | 11:31 PM
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Old May 24, 2010 | 11:45 PM
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Do any other states execute child molesters on first offense?
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Old May 25, 2010 | 05:17 AM
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Originally Posted by wraith5,May 25 2010, 01:45 AM
Do any other states execute child molesters on first offense?
"Convicted child molester John Albert Gardner III was sentenced to life in prison this month after pleading guilty to raping and murdering King and 14-year-old Amber Dubois in San Diego County."

What's wrong with executing first offenders?
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Old May 25, 2010 | 06:08 AM
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Originally Posted by wraith5,May 25 2010, 02:45 AM
Do any other states execute child molesters on first offense?
No. The only thing you can get executed for on a 1st offense is murder IIRC

wait.. treason too i suppose.

Oh but let's ignore that and mindlessly bash california when the original article is about INCREASING sentencing, INCREASING probation, INCREASING monitoring of offenders and generally doing everything a tough-on-crime person would support.




also, ibtm to politics
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Old May 25, 2010 | 06:43 AM
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It's very easy to react emotionally to changes in laws, policies, etc. that relate to children's safety. Fear seems to drive people to say that sex offenders cannot be rehabilitated, but the fact is there's a huge gap in the research. From what I understand, there isn't really one theory that is generally accepted as explaining this kind of behaviour and there are all kinds of issues related to accurately assessing the risk of re-offending. I don't think the proposed GPS tracking and banning offenders from parks probably is going to help much.

It's also interesting how some people say convicted offenders should be killed...but what do the victims think? In most cases the perpetrators are known to and trusted by the victim/survivor - not random strangers. Obviously the offender needs to be held accountable, but often it seems the public is more vocal about the offender being punished as opposed to supporting victims in their healing.
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Old May 25, 2010 | 06:45 AM
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I still don't understand why they don't make convicted criminals do hard labor in prison. We all win: labor in exchange for the cost of maintaining prisons, cities get beautified, and they could probably even farm their own food like the old days as well.
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Old May 25, 2010 | 06:50 AM
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Originally Posted by shareall,May 25 2010, 09:43 AM
It's very easy to react emotionally to changes in laws, policies, etc. that relate to children's safety. Fear seems to drive people to say that sex offenders cannot be rehabilitated, but the fact is there's a huge gap in the research. From what I understand, there isn't really one theory that is generally accepted as explaining this kind of behaviour and there are all kinds of issues related to accurately assessing the risk of re-offending. I don't think the proposed GPS tracking and banning offenders from parks probably is going to help much.

It's also interesting how some people say convicted offenders should be killed...but what do the victims think? In most cases the perpetrators are known to and trusted by the victim/survivor - not random strangers. Obviously the offender needs to be held accountable, but often it seems the public is more vocal about the offender being punished as opposed to supporting victims in their healing.
inb4 someone calls you an evil bleeding heart liberal who loves child molesters.

You're spot on though. Most sex offender, sexual predator, and general sex crime legislation happens like this

-one horrible event happens
-one or two politicians decide to quickly capitalize on it
-they propose reactionary legislation with harsher penalties and restrictions
-it gets passed unanimously because voting against it is political suicide

At one point, due to sex offender legislation, no convicted sex offender could live around most of Miami. So, they ended up homeless and living under a bridge... the *exact opposite* of what the law was intended to accomplish. They were MORE difficult to track *and* ended up right next to a beach ... where there were children playing... exactly what you *don't want.* Unfortunately, politicians are just as short sighted as the public... so instead of doing things to actually help, they pass more ridiculous laws.
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Old May 25, 2010 | 07:31 AM
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Cali is my home state, so im not bashing cali, im bashing the legislature and its not really perfect anywhere you go. I am not attacking first time offenders, its the repeat offenders I wish to see executed.
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