open relationships
Originally Posted by dyhppy,Dec 16 2007, 11:02 PM
our many MANY marital/relationship troubles in this society are no secret. imo, our consumer minded psychology makes us tire of each other very quickly. there's the honeymoon period, then we get used to each other and then the little quirks annoy us into divorce. but if anyone has had make up sex, you'll know the refreshening of emotion, etc that comes with it.
that brings up the question, if we had open relationships, we would tend to take our partners less for granted. it would be a static state of fighting for their continued affection and therefore keep things interesting.
what do you think and could you handle it? or are you a jealous, insecure clinger
j/k
that brings up the question, if we had open relationships, we would tend to take our partners less for granted. it would be a static state of fighting for their continued affection and therefore keep things interesting.
what do you think and could you handle it? or are you a jealous, insecure clinger
j/kI could never share my super hot wife from sweden!
Open relationships can work but are the exception.
My philosophy on marraige is this:
One of the biggest decisions in one's lifetime would be who to "Marry". This decision is left up to ANYONE who is legally of age to get married and nothing else. This lack of human error and maturity level in regards to marraige only leads to young AND old people getting married for the wrong reasons or simply because they are STUPID.
STUPID people get married too.
Marraige has turned into this gross mutation of legal binding contracts that only are inplace for financial gain/loss which favors the female sex in the majority of the cases. Divorce has turned into another gross mutated entity that has people who would otherwise divorce, stay together only because of the financial ramifications.
So what is my solution?
Marraige should be a 2 year contract. Much like a lease that can be renewed every 2 years. Who does it effect?...... only the people who shouldn't be married in the first place regardless of their reasons.
Two people who are in "LOVE" should not be effected by the contract because they will happily sign or renew their marraige contract and stay married as long as they wish. For those that realize that they should NOT be married, they can end their marraige at the expiration of their contract and not have to deal with the Divorce lawyers.
Marraige in general used to be a beautiful thing.... but now it's a joke IMO. The State has taken too much control and has turned a moral decision into a financial and legal dibocal.
Those who oppose.... then what is the point of approving pre-nups?.... if they are in "LOVE" then in the sanctity of marraige, all things are equal. Society has turned marraige into some sort of legal "lotto".
Flame suit on..
Tim
My philosophy on marraige is this:
One of the biggest decisions in one's lifetime would be who to "Marry". This decision is left up to ANYONE who is legally of age to get married and nothing else. This lack of human error and maturity level in regards to marraige only leads to young AND old people getting married for the wrong reasons or simply because they are STUPID.
STUPID people get married too.
Marraige has turned into this gross mutation of legal binding contracts that only are inplace for financial gain/loss which favors the female sex in the majority of the cases. Divorce has turned into another gross mutated entity that has people who would otherwise divorce, stay together only because of the financial ramifications.
So what is my solution?
Marraige should be a 2 year contract. Much like a lease that can be renewed every 2 years. Who does it effect?...... only the people who shouldn't be married in the first place regardless of their reasons.
Two people who are in "LOVE" should not be effected by the contract because they will happily sign or renew their marraige contract and stay married as long as they wish. For those that realize that they should NOT be married, they can end their marraige at the expiration of their contract and not have to deal with the Divorce lawyers.
Marraige in general used to be a beautiful thing.... but now it's a joke IMO. The State has taken too much control and has turned a moral decision into a financial and legal dibocal.
Those who oppose.... then what is the point of approving pre-nups?.... if they are in "LOVE" then in the sanctity of marraige, all things are equal. Society has turned marraige into some sort of legal "lotto".
Flame suit on..
Tim
[QUOTE=SIIK2NR,Dec 18 2007, 02:12 AM] Two people who are in "LOVE" should not be effected by the contract because they will happily sign or renew their marraige contract and stay married as long as they wish.
It not only works, but is not at all uncommon. It is called polyamory, and there are all sorts of websites devoted to it. Just google it to find out. There is swinging, where a couple jointly "plays" with other singles or couples, and there is polyamory, which is having an open, committed and loving relationship with more than one person.
I've been in open relationships and I've been in monogamous relationships. I don't think that one is superior to another. But I don't seem to have the gene for jealousy. And, as someone pointed out in this thread, since the majority of marriages have at least one partner who has been unfaithful, most of the people here are in polyamorous relationships, whether they know it or not.
Zeiss
I've been in open relationships and I've been in monogamous relationships. I don't think that one is superior to another. But I don't seem to have the gene for jealousy. And, as someone pointed out in this thread, since the majority of marriages have at least one partner who has been unfaithful, most of the people here are in polyamorous relationships, whether they know it or not.
Zeiss
Originally Posted by zeiss,Dec 18 2007, 11:20 AM
It not only works, but is not at all uncommon. It is called polyamory, and there are all sorts of websites devoted to it. Just google it to find out. There is swinging, where a couple jointly "plays" with other singles or couples, and there is polyamory, which is having an open, committed and loving relationship with more than one person.
I've been in open relationships and I've been in monogamous relationships. I don't think that one is superior to another. But I don't seem to have the gene for jealousy. And, as someone pointed out in this thread, since the majority of marriages have at least one partner who has been unfaithful, most of the people here are in polyamorous relationships, whether they know it or not.
Zeiss
I've been in open relationships and I've been in monogamous relationships. I don't think that one is superior to another. But I don't seem to have the gene for jealousy. And, as someone pointed out in this thread, since the majority of marriages have at least one partner who has been unfaithful, most of the people here are in polyamorous relationships, whether they know it or not.
Zeiss
Plus I don't believe that a majority of marriages have an unfaithful partner. Maybe a percentage of failed marriages do...
I think when we're younger we have open relationships and don't even know it. I think it takes a responsible like-minded couple to have these sorts of active multi-partner relationships. If the two partners aren't fully committed, just like in a marriage, then it won't work. Ironically both types of relationships require a sort of commitment.
But whether it be a marriage or polyamorous relationship eventually I think one would get bored of the life style and find something new. The person in the marriage might cheat, the one in the polyamorous one might want to settle down.
Personally, and romantically(idealistically) I look to Sarte and Kinsey and want to break the barriers of our social "requirement" of marriage and sexual monogamy. but inside i am uneasy. I know that deep inside I want my cake and eat it too.
I want to have someone there for me, always to take care and have conversation and companionship. and on the other hand, i want to bone everything that moves.
In the end, even though I still do not believe in marriage as an institution, I do believe in monogamy. and think that being with one partner is more emotionally filling in the end. especially if you want to have children.
Kinda unrelated but interesting. In Bellow's Herzog, Herzog states that it doesn't matter who you marry you'll eventually get bored of them. So eventually you're going to have to make it work. And that's the lesson I got out of it. He was afraid of commitment, because he didn't want to put in the work.
too lazy to proofread; bored at work...
Originally Posted by IheartS2ks,Dec 18 2007, 02:34 PM
I think when we're younger we have open relationships and don't even know it. I think it takes a responsible like-minded couple to have these sorts of active multi-partner relationships. If the two partners aren't fully committed, just like in a marriage, then it won't work. Ironically both types of relationships require a sort of commitment.








