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Opening a topless bar?

Old Jan 13, 2006 | 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by dcak,Jan 13 2006, 07:22 PM
PS: The gut who posted is in Florida, not NY. The mob doesn't keep the rest of the world turning, as it may there.
I'm pretty sure that the maffia operates in FL too. Haven't you seen "Goodfellas"?
Old Jan 13, 2006 | 04:04 PM
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im laughing my ass off at people that think $100k, even in US funds can build and open a bar.
let me put it this way, unless ur going to fit it out with garbage tip fittings, ie, u go to the tip to pick up old bits and pieces, ur not even going to get close to gutting a shop and building it from scratch.
granted that our families business is food retail with restaurants, cafes, and food courts, it still is a good basis to begin with in terms of refrigeration, air conditioning, tables, seating, counters etc. our last shop, which was professionally designed, using good quality, not top quality pieces, cost about $300k australian. it was built from scratch. this doesnt include stock.
i know of another person that just recently built his shop and he ran close to $500k for his fitout, he went a little too far, but it is still nowhere near what a top class bar should be.
given the exchange rate between the 2 countries at about A$0.70=US$1, then $100k US is about $130k australian. so u still need a fair bit to go even factoring in lower costs from builders and materials.
unless you r in a backwater part of florida where u can get away with cheap plastic seats, then $100k isnt even close.
the liquor license isnt whats going to cost u, its the fitout, making it look nice, and contemporary.
i find it hilarious that people that dont have a clue as to what is involved in building a business from scratch have no idea what thing costs, they then go off on a tirade when they see how much a meal or drinks costs. im guessing they expect the business to not make any money back from their investment.
here is a good example, i know of a guy that recently bought a high quality restaurant in circular quay in sydney, it cost him $9.6 million for the building and business. think about that
Old Jan 13, 2006 | 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by happs22,Jan 13 2006, 04:58 PM
I'm pretty sure that the maffia operates in FL too. Haven't you seen "Goodfellas"?
That's what he was saying.
Old Jan 13, 2006 | 04:16 PM
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Old Jan 13, 2006 | 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by blacks2k,Jan 13 2006, 05:04 PM
im laughing my ass off at people that think $100k, even in US funds can build and open a bar.
let me put it this way, unless ur going to fit it out with garbage tip fittings, ie, u go to the tip to pick up old bits and pieces, ur not even going to get close to gutting a shop and building it from scratch.
granted that our families business is food retail with restaurants, cafes, and food courts, it still is a good basis to begin with in terms of refrigeration, air conditioning, tables, seating, counters etc. our last shop, which was professionally designed, using good quality, not top quality pieces, cost about $300k australian. it was built from scratch. this doesnt include stock.
i know of another person that just recently built his shop and he ran close to $500k for his fitout, he went a little too far, but it is still nowhere near what a top class bar should be.
given the exchange rate between the 2 countries at about A$0.70=US$1, then $100k US is about $130k australian. so u still need a fair bit to go even factoring in lower costs from builders and materials.
unless you r in a backwater part of florida where u can get away with cheap plastic seats, then $100k isnt even close.
the liquor license isnt whats going to cost u, its the fitout, making it look nice, and contemporary.
i find it hilarious that people that dont have a clue as to what is involved in building a business from scratch have no idea what thing costs, they then go off on a tirade when they see how much a meal or drinks costs. im guessing they expect the business to not make any money back from their investment.
here is a good example, i know of a guy that recently bought a high quality restaurant in circular quay in sydney, it cost him $9.6 million for the building and business. think about that
Nobody is talking about "building" anything. He stated loud and clear that he will be renting the place.


"Do you think $100,000 is enough to get you started (assuming you lease a place)?"
Old Jan 13, 2006 | 09:17 PM
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r u stupid, he is referring to leasing the premises, an empty premises. he even talks about a strip mall aka a shopping centre or similar. no one that i know leases an already built business???? how does that even happen. the normal business practice is a potential tenant leases an empty site, builds his business there, from the ground up and then runs it for the tenure of his lease.
excuse me if im missing something here, but thats how businesses develop in the real world. i think u r the one missing the key facts.
seriously, ur age and inexperience is showing.
oh and btw, im teh one that is talking about building something, because last time i checked titty bars dont just pop up for $100k, hell, nightclubs dont pop up for that amount either. in fact, most businesses, especially successful ones dont start off that cheap, let alone a bar, pub, restaurant.
Old Jan 13, 2006 | 10:33 PM
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Yellow, you seriously have no clue about this business.

First of all, getting a liquor license has nothing to do with knowing people, unless you know the entire neighborhood. Second, do you know how much it costs to stock a bar?

Do you know how much a commercial sound system costs?

Do you know how much a 25' bar costs?

BTW, this is what I do for a living. I have a consulting firm for the opening of bars, hotels, and nightclubs. I detail every aspect of opening the business from scratch.

The only way 100K is enough is if you make that your downpayment on a 500K loan.
Old Jan 14, 2006 | 02:53 AM
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hahahha, wow this is eye opening.

i employ a lot of people and i generally see the levels of intelligence of young teenagers as they grow up into adolescence and then into adults. the maturation process is long and slow and it is shown right here.

at the age of 20, most people don't know much about life and how the world works, let alone their neck of the woods. however, if you asked them, they know enough, otherwise, they'll beat you up or chew you out for questioning their intelligence.

simple question, how much does a simple low cost food outlet like a subway cost? i know it's not the same thing, but compare them, generally a titty bar turns over a lot more cash right? right?....so how much is a subway? i think it goes a bit more then $100k.

yellow, all you have to say is "ok, thanks for teaching me some things, i know i don't know everything, so i'll learn next time by listening and asking questions".
Old Jan 14, 2006 | 07:03 AM
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Originally Posted by YellowS2kPwr,Jan 13 2006, 02:31 PM
Who the **** do you think you are? Take your superiority complex somewhere else you piece of shit. Yeah now take your ass back to school and shut up. Nobody asked your opinion.


To the OP: a liquor license in Chicago will run you about $10,000 with the right connections. I have at least 5 friends or relatives that have opened up their own places in the last couple of years (not topless, just bar types) and it's not too complicated. But hey, what do I know, I'm only 20... Guess you old farts know everything there is to know about the world.
I do not think I am superior to you. I was just giving you my opinion that you should stay in school, because anyone that thinks a 100k is enough money to start a strip club is an obvious idiot in my book. Like I and many other stated above 100k will not even put a dent in your expenses.

Also you noted that your friends obtained liquor licenses and paid 10k for them..well go ask your friends if they have topless women dancing on top of their bars, because once you factor this into your equation licenses and permits go up exponentially, due to the fact that drunk horny guys lose all sense of reality when presented with a topless woman and it creates big problems. This is why high end gentlemans clubs are only topless when alcohol is served and not fully nude. But you can et into every bar in the world (which is an obvious lie in my book) so you should know this.

Also if you do not think that "THE MOB" would care about you eating into their profits then you are serioulsy mistaken
Old Jan 14, 2006 | 07:43 AM
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Psh...lies all lies.

Anyone for intelligence knows that it only requires duct tape, bailing wire, and half a brain to open a topless bar.

Puhleez....



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