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Old Apr 15, 2010 | 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Spec_Ops2087,Apr 15 2010, 08:17 AM
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Old Apr 15, 2010 | 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Incubus,Apr 15 2010, 11:08 AM
^ Australia seems to be the wrong color in that image. Are there any other mistakes, or do we just take it at face value?
I dunno why that's like that but good catch. The data is all from the WHO (World Health Organization) so I guess I should have referenced them instead:

http://www.who.int/mental_health/preventio...cideprevent/en/
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Old Apr 15, 2010 | 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Incubus,Apr 15 2010, 11:08 AM
^ Australia seems to be the wrong color in that image. Are there any other mistakes, or do we just take it at face value?
Actually I just realized the original chart was for Mar 2002 statistics while that data table gave statistics for various years, so they wouldn't neccesarily match up.
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Old Apr 15, 2010 | 11:50 AM
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Its a weird pandemic. I think people grow up too fast, and they realized all a sudden, "wtf I have responsibilities?" Some can't take it and collapse under so much pressure of having the responsibility of having to get stuff done at a certain time period. I've been through mood phases, but never been suicidal because of college. Im 20 years old, going on my 3rd year and I just get the shit done. It sucks, yea, but on the other hand I dont mind it. My current school hours are good and flexible, I usually only have about 4 classes a semester, 1 class a day, off mondays, fridays, saturdays, and sundays. So I feel pretty flexible. I know it will probably get harder when I go to a university (currently at a community college). I dont disagree that I think college should be easier . But then, I guess the jobs they offer when you get done college wouldnt feel so....rewarding?
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Old Apr 15, 2010 | 11:54 AM
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a couple a year at ours too. Just recently some kid jumped off a building, which IMO is the worst way to go... You're actually still alive after you hit the ground, you just cant do anything cuz everything is gone..
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Old Apr 15, 2010 | 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by ikeyballz,Apr 15 2010, 11:54 AM
a couple a year at ours too. Just recently some kid jumped off a building, which IMO is the worst way to go... You're actually still alive after you hit the ground, you just cant do anything cuz everything is gone..
Depends how far you fall and how you hit the ground. Its not really the worse way to go, because as your falling your body releases a chemical called DMT (Dimethyltryptamine). Which is only released as you are born, and before you die. So your body can get through the cycle without having any pain. DMT also comes in some plants.
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Old Apr 15, 2010 | 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by ikeyballz,Apr 15 2010, 07:54 PM
a couple a year at ours too. Just recently some kid jumped off a building, which IMO is the worst way to go... You're actually still alive after you hit the ground, you just cant do anything cuz everything is gone..
What University? This happened at LSU within the last month or two. Same thing, still alive for a while.
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Old Apr 15, 2010 | 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Angerman,Apr 15 2010, 11:50 AM
Its a weird pandemic. I think people grow up too fast, and they realized all a sudden, "wtf I have responsibilities?" Some can't take it and collapse under so much pressure of having the responsibility of having to get stuff done at a certain time period. I've been through mood phases, but never been suicidal because of college. Im 20 years old, going on my 3rd year and I just get the shit done. It sucks, yea, but on the other hand I dont mind it. My current school hours are good and flexible, I usually only have about 4 classes a semester, 1 class a day, off mondays, fridays, saturdays, and sundays. So I feel pretty flexible. I know it will probably get harder when I go to a university (currently at a community college). I dont disagree that I think college should be easier . But then, I guess the jobs they offer when you get done college wouldnt feel so....rewarding?
People don't kill themselves in college because classes are hard. It wouldn't matter if they were in college or not, a combination of situations, stress, and mental illness set up what you might even call a reflex to die. It's not "the easy way out," it's often seen by the individual as the only option that ends the trouble they cause the people around them.

When someone throws up, nobody says "That's dumb, they had no reason to throw up right there!?!" They say "That person must be ill. They need to see a doctor." I don't know why with suicide people say "That doesn't make sense. They had everything to live for." Or "Coward, they took the easy way out."
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Old Apr 15, 2010 | 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by NuncoStr8,Apr 15 2010, 12:40 PM
People don't kill themselves in college because classes are hard. It wouldn't matter if they were in college or not, a combination of situations, stress, and mental illness set up what you might even call a reflex to die. It's not "the easy way out," it's often seen by the individual as the only option that ends the trouble they cause the people around them.

When someone throws up, nobody says "That's dumb, they had no reason to throw up right there!?!" They say "That person must be ill. They need to see a doctor." I don't know why with suicide people say "That doesn't make sense. They had everything to live for." Or "Coward, they took the easy way out."
I dont disagree. I never said people kill themselves BECAUSE of college, its just what the topic is about, so thats what I based my post on due to personal opinion. I agree that its a mind-set of the individual. People always say "This person had everything, why would they kill themselves?!" Thats irrelevant. Having everything doesnt really make you happy. I have a lot and I went through phases of being "unhappy". Its just a mental feeling. Having a lot of stuff doesnt make you happy, maybe to some it does, but to others, not.
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Old Apr 15, 2010 | 12:56 PM
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The thing is, it's not about happy or not happy. It's about health. There's all kinds of ailments that affect your heart and lungs and kidneys and liver. But when it affects your brain it also affects your behavior. Instead of coughing or sneezing, the things that used to bring pleasure no longer do, and behavior that is "out of character" becomes more common. If there is nobody around to spot the issues and take steps to address them, it's like any other untreated disease - it gets worse until the victim dies from it.

The sad thing is that medicine has largely considered mental health to either be "God's will" or some mysterious mystical thing. Imagine if heart disease was considered "taking the easy way out"?
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