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Old Jul 18, 2002 | 10:55 AM
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Jay Li,

Warren, that makes sense to me, but I thought you disagreed with my stance on free will. That's the topic I was referring to, not the reincarnation one.
Here's my belief: humans have a modicum of free-will, granted by the indeterminsm of quantum mechanics. However, 99.9% of human behavior does not require nor involve free-will; most human behavior can be described by a suitably large finite state automaton.

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Old Jul 18, 2002 | 10:58 AM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Jay Li
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Jon, I saw an interview with Reggie White (he's a minister, and retired pro football player) where they grilled him about ridiculous things that were in the Bible.
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Old Jul 18, 2002 | 11:06 AM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by chroot
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You can't be "quite adamant" about truth -- it either is, or isn't.

Let's imagine that everyone is just a computer.
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Old Jul 18, 2002 | 11:07 AM
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Jon, I appreciate your response, but I was really looking forward to what you might have to say about my proposed heaven situation!
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Old Jul 18, 2002 | 11:10 AM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by chroot
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How many times have we heard the sheep bleat this argument while in line to the gates of their Heaven?

Let's analyze.

Background: Let's picture a scene: a house catches fire, and an infant is agonizingly burned to death.

Question: Could we possibly describe God as "good" for allowing this happen?

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Old Jul 18, 2002 | 11:15 AM
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Why would god knowingly take a newborn infant? If we are not here on this planet to live, then what ARE we here for? With that in mind, were we then only created to be a plaything of god? Maybe he just needed an animal that could worship him.
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Old Jul 18, 2002 | 11:21 AM
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Holy Christ!

This is what religion does to people:
The death of the child was the "spanking" [of the parents].
That's so disgusting it almost made me get sick, JonBoy. I'm serious. You actually choose to discard all logic and reason, and instead believe that THE CHILD'S DEATH IS JUSTIFIED BECAUSE ITS PARENTS LEARNED SOMETHING?

How can you actually believe a God who takes the lives of innocent people to "punish" the guilty is good?! Can God Almighty in Heaven not find a better way to punish lousy parents than killing innocent infants?

Please answer me, faithful one. I wait with baited breath.

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Old Jul 18, 2002 | 11:21 AM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Jay Li
[B]Jon, I appreciate your response, but I was really looking forward to what you might have to say about my proposed heaven situation!
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Old Jul 18, 2002 | 11:24 AM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by ltweintz
[B]Why would god knowingly take a newborn infant?
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Old Jul 18, 2002 | 11:28 AM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by chroot
[B]Holy Christ!

This is what religion does to people:
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