[QUOTE]Originally posted by JonBoy
[B]

As enlightened and sophisticated as we are, we still can't make something like the pyramids.

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by chroot
[B]Uh, thanks JonBoy.

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by chroot
[B]I'm impressed that you knew what SU meant -- be honest though, did you have to look it up somewhere?

SU(3), by the way, is a group that describes the colour interactions (strong force).

That's the problem with watering down physics -- it just gets to be so confusing that no one, having heard a watered-down version, is any more capable of doing physics than they were from the start.

 

Jeeeez. I will try to make things painfully clear from now on. I didn't think anyone could miss my point and think I was stating that cats don't come in the color black. Thank you for explaining my statement.

As for flying ouija disks.....no. Never met one. But then I wouldn't bother with a ouija board. Did spend some time with one at someone's house once when I was young and less aware. But I was horrifically bored in ten minutes. Such a need to have something other than reality is, and there is no other way to put this, childish or just desperate. Reminds me of the stuff taught children about clicking your heels three times, or "If you wish HARD ENOUGH it will come true".

Satan is the Ace in the hole for the God theory. A way of explaining what went wrong. And a way of denouncing non-believers. We don't drill holes in the heads of mentally ill folk to let the demons out anymore do we?

A belief in logic takes as much faith as a belief in religion???? Some one sniffed a couple tubes too much glue to state that. To think and observe is being sentient. Cowering under a bush counting beads on a string asking God to pass over them when an eclipse happens is fear and ignorance. It takes no faith to believe in reality. Yes. It is a reality limited to our ability to perceive. I do understand that point. But if you believe you were created by God, then you believe God made you with a brain. Why would God make you with a brain and tell you not to use it? Why would any all powerful etc. etc. want to create a planet of fawning chanting zombies??

Someone said it better than I: "All great truths begin as blaspheme".

 

s2kpdx, you don't see people today dying from the flu or polio do you? I think it's safe to say that we have improved technologically, and this improvement isn't possible without improved intelligence. If those people back then were as smart, they would have come up with this stuff. You can argue that maybe they didn't have the facilities to utilize, but then that just goes to show that they weren't even that advanced to have facilities built.

Jon, I would bet that people were not more technologically advanced than us before the flood. If they were, wouldn't people have discovered the remnants?

Isn't the Christian belief that god created everything? Wouldn't that mean he created religion? I could be wrong here, but that's what it seems like to me.

In no way am I a physics expert, but here is a simple way of showing how the universe may have started from the BB. The universe is expanding today (from measurements taken from astronomers). If that is the case, then it must have been smaller before, and smaller before that, etc. This leads to it eventually being a singularity.

 

That was Hubble's hypothesis, and it was the first step in a very long, windy road.

- Warren

 

Warren, again you surprise me! I'd have thought that you would have jumped at the opportunity to point out that a strictly decreasing positive function does not have to approach zero. It could have an asymptote at any non-negative value.

(Oh my goodness, now I'm helping the other side argue. I need some lunch! )

 

[QUOTE][I]Originally posted by woodyandy

 

magician,

Well, let's just say I'm getting tired of parting the black curtains of ignorance here. Instead, I just trying to point out that there's a lot more to the story than just the Hubble expansion (or evidence thereof).

- Warren

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by chroot
[B]magician,



Well, let's just say I'm getting tired of parting the black curtains of ignorance here.