[QUOTE]Originally posted by JonBoy
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I hope you're not suggesting that this might be the time to close this thread down.

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by chroot
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The Matrix is entirely, completely, wonderfully feasible.

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by JonBoy
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Because a man without free will is a slave, which is what would be required to keep sin from occurring in humans.

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Jay Li
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I think this statement is completely wrong.

 

Well we're fast approaching the age old impasse now aren't we?... where all the logic and reason has been presented by the non-believers and the believers are adopting their traditional stance of "You've just gotta have faith baby" Works for them obviously.

Did anyone seriously expect anything new to come from this, entertaining as it has been, though like the curate's egg....... "In parts"

There's a new found maturity in this board though which I could get quite used to.

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by chroot
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Wow, that explains sooooo much -- thank you.

 

I think we've come to and left the impasse about sixteen times since this thread started.

As I said, faith is definitely what Christianity is based on. To believe the supernatural (unprovable, according to the science advocates here) is only possible by faith. At least walking by faith lines up with scripture.



Sorry, couldn't resist a little provocative statement to finish off.

 

Yes, I'm feeling very provoked.

- Warren

 

Jon, your original statement that I quoted stated that we would have to be slaves in order to never sin.

My examples were just explaining how it is possible to have free will and never sin. Additionally, the bigger question for me was that wouldn't it be enough just to demonstrate that sin is possible, without going overboard (which I believe the world has)?

One last thing...what would you have to say about a miracle healing that happened to an athiest?

 

One more note actually...I find the combination of Christianity and nihilism to be rather odd.