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Originally Posted by AlX Boi,Sep 14 2006, 09:53 AM
Thanks for calling me a peice of shit. I totally look forward to quick judgments like that on this board. Read my other post dude.
So you treat a customer like ass if they don't tip at the bar? It's customary to tip yeah, but where in your job description did it say that it's open season on the customer who doesn't tip? People only do it at bars so they don't get shit from you guys. You poured me a $9 shot of henny and a coke chaser. How much tip do you expect from that? I'll bet $3. Two of my bartender friends tell me that's what they expect at the clubs they work at. 33.3%?! Tip percentage just keeps going up huh? No matter how you look at it, you're just expecting free money. That is IF you expect tip.
For others who work their ass off to be pleasant and attentive, yeah, I have been known to give proper tip. So keep up the good work.
So you treat a customer like ass if they don't tip at the bar? It's customary to tip yeah, but where in your job description did it say that it's open season on the customer who doesn't tip? People only do it at bars so they don't get shit from you guys. You poured me a $9 shot of henny and a coke chaser. How much tip do you expect from that? I'll bet $3. Two of my bartender friends tell me that's what they expect at the clubs they work at. 33.3%?! Tip percentage just keeps going up huh? No matter how you look at it, you're just expecting free money. That is IF you expect tip.
For others who work their ass off to be pleasant and attentive, yeah, I have been known to give proper tip. So keep up the good work.
Tipping 2$ on a 30$ meal is just plain cheap. if you were my friend and tried to do that, when the waiter/waitress did a good job with the service i would bitch slap you. If you cant afford to tip a fair amount you should stick to mcdonalds.
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Originally Posted by i_heart_my_DB8,Sep 13 2006, 09:31 AM
I encourage PROPER tipping. I mean: Tipping based on SERVICE, not based on an arbitrary percentage, or guilt.
If you ALWAYS tip 10% and above regardless of service, you are encouraging a server to continue doing a piss-poor job.
If I get piss-poor service, guess what? YOU'RE GETTING A PISS-POOR TIP.
If I get excellent service, guess what? You're getting an excellent tip. Simple as that. You don't get nuthin for nuthin in this world, so earn what you believe you deserve. Simple as that.
Oh yeah, and a place that puts a mandatory tip on a bill for less than 6 people is never going to see my business.
If you ALWAYS tip 10% and above regardless of service, you are encouraging a server to continue doing a piss-poor job.
If I get piss-poor service, guess what? YOU'RE GETTING A PISS-POOR TIP.
If I get excellent service, guess what? You're getting an excellent tip. Simple as that. You don't get nuthin for nuthin in this world, so earn what you believe you deserve. Simple as that.
Oh yeah, and a place that puts a mandatory tip on a bill for less than 6 people is never going to see my business.
i couldnt agree more with you on this statement.
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Originally Posted by kadeshpa,Sep 13 2006, 01:50 PM
A mandatory 20% tip is ridiculous. I think of myself as a generous tipper, but when I read that piece, I felt like a cheap ass.
Comeon, for putting food on a table and filling drinks once requires an average $20 for two people? BS. I will go down to 5% if the service is bad. I leave a low tip since I feel it is more of a snub then 0 or "forgetting".
Comeon, for putting food on a table and filling drinks once requires an average $20 for two people? BS. I will go down to 5% if the service is bad. I leave a low tip since I feel it is more of a snub then 0 or "forgetting".
When I tip at bars it $1 per drink and whatever coins they brought me back, i don't need that weight in my pocket. I don't care if it's tap water I give $1. My favorite thing if I know there is going to be some serious drinking that night, I walk up to the best looking girl bartender or the guy that seems the most serious, ask for my drinks pay him give him my normal tip then pull out a $20 and say that's in case some of my buddies forget to tip you tonight. It always works for me, I stand up, he snubs anyone else waiting to get me my drink. When the bar starts to close I usually get my last few drinks for free.
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W00w, peeps are getting really mad at the $2 tip for a $30 meal thing. It was just a joke. I only go out to eat with friends and dates, never alone, so I tip to save face. This all goes back to my theory of people tipping for respect, to save face, to look good, not to be belittled by friends, to get some ass later, etc.
Also, why do people keep bashing on Mcdonald's? Why shouldn't we tip there and at restaurants? Just because it's customary? Mcdonald's keeps a clean table for you to sit on and eat. They don't watch your food go cold and then serve it to you. In fact, as soon as it's done, the rush it to you. Why don't we tip at Mcdonald's? It's cheap stuff where you go just to ease your hunger. There's no looking good here if you leave a tip. I love Mcdonald's myself. I've always gotten excellent service there. I would definitely leave tip if that was the customary thing. But I can't because I have to save that tip money for restaurants with waiters who expect tip for good or bad service.
Also, why do people keep bashing on Mcdonald's? Why shouldn't we tip there and at restaurants? Just because it's customary? Mcdonald's keeps a clean table for you to sit on and eat. They don't watch your food go cold and then serve it to you. In fact, as soon as it's done, the rush it to you. Why don't we tip at Mcdonald's? It's cheap stuff where you go just to ease your hunger. There's no looking good here if you leave a tip. I love Mcdonald's myself. I've always gotten excellent service there. I would definitely leave tip if that was the customary thing. But I can't because I have to save that tip money for restaurants with waiters who expect tip for good or bad service.
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Originally Posted by AlX Boi,Sep 14 2006, 08:53 AM
Thanks for calling me a peice of shit. I totally look forward to quick judgments like that on this board. Read my other post dude.
So you treat a customer like ass if they don't tip at the bar? It's customary to tip yeah, but where in your job description did it say that it's open season on the customer who doesn't tip? People only do it at bars so they don't get shit from you guys. You poured me a $9 shot of henny and a coke chaser. How much tip do you expect from that? I'll bet $3. Two of my bartender friends tell me that's what they expect at the clubs they work at. 33.3%?! Tip percentage just keeps going up huh? No matter how you look at it, you're just expecting free money. That is IF you expect tip.
For others who work their ass off to be pleasant and attentive, yeah, I have been known to give proper tip. So keep up the good work.
So you treat a customer like ass if they don't tip at the bar? It's customary to tip yeah, but where in your job description did it say that it's open season on the customer who doesn't tip? People only do it at bars so they don't get shit from you guys. You poured me a $9 shot of henny and a coke chaser. How much tip do you expect from that? I'll bet $3. Two of my bartender friends tell me that's what they expect at the clubs they work at. 33.3%?! Tip percentage just keeps going up huh? No matter how you look at it, you're just expecting free money. That is IF you expect tip.
For others who work their ass off to be pleasant and attentive, yeah, I have been known to give proper tip. So keep up the good work.
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Again, you're forgetting tipping isn't mandatory. I'm sure if I was in the service industry I would be mad too, generally because it's such an accepted custom.
But honestly look at what the customer is really paying for. He went to a bar to buy a shot + service for that $9. If he wanted to be treated extra special and be first in line all the time, then get free shots at the end of the night and a smile from you, he can go ahead. I've done that too. It's all just for show for the girls. I didn't give you this tip because you're an excellent bartender.
I really wish people would stop bashing on other people's character. S2Ki is one of the more mature and informative forums I know. This was a discussion about tipping habits. I could've lied and said I give 40% and make people think I'm a baller or a very generous man.
But honestly look at what the customer is really paying for. He went to a bar to buy a shot + service for that $9. If he wanted to be treated extra special and be first in line all the time, then get free shots at the end of the night and a smile from you, he can go ahead. I've done that too. It's all just for show for the girls. I didn't give you this tip because you're an excellent bartender.
I really wish people would stop bashing on other people's character. S2Ki is one of the more mature and informative forums I know. This was a discussion about tipping habits. I could've lied and said I give 40% and make people think I'm a baller or a very generous man.
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Originally Posted by AlX Boi,Sep 14 2006, 09:40 AM
Again, you're forgetting tipping isn't mandatory. I'm sure if I was in the service industry I would be mad too, generally because it's such an accepted custom.
But honestly look at what the customer is really paying for. He went to a bar to buy a shot + service for that $9. If he wanted to be treated extra special and be first in line all the time, then get free shots at the end of the night and a smile from you, he can go ahead. I've done that too. It's all just for show for the girls. I didn't give you this tip because you're an excellent bartender.
I really wish people would stop bashing on other people's character. S2Ki is one of the more mature and informative forums I know. This was a discussion about tipping habits. I could've lied and said I give 40% and make people think I'm a baller or a very generous man.
But honestly look at what the customer is really paying for. He went to a bar to buy a shot + service for that $9. If he wanted to be treated extra special and be first in line all the time, then get free shots at the end of the night and a smile from you, he can go ahead. I've done that too. It's all just for show for the girls. I didn't give you this tip because you're an excellent bartender.
I really wish people would stop bashing on other people's character. S2Ki is one of the more mature and informative forums I know. This was a discussion about tipping habits. I could've lied and said I give 40% and make people think I'm a baller or a very generous man.
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Originally Posted by AlX Boi,Sep 14 2006, 06:51 AM
There seems to be something with waiters wanting that free extra bundle of cash at the end of the night. They're being paid to do the service well. They'd get fired anywhere if they didn't treat customers or clients properly. Tipping is such a stupid western civilization tradition. Most people do it to look good, not because they feel like giving more money for something that was already paid for.
No where in Asia is tipping expected. I tipped the chauffer who drove me from the airport to the hotel when I went to Taiwan and he declined. I left more than the required amount at the hotel restaurant and left. The waittress came running after me with my change. They get paid for providing a service and shouldn't expect to do a sloppy job if the customer doesn't give them more money than their employer charges. That really is extortion.
In the case of our waiter friend above, why shouldn't a teacher get tipped for spending extra time with a student? Would our sponsors require tip according to how many emails you sent him inquiring about products? Maybe a police officer should get tipped for rescuing someone? Should a fire fighter put some as last priority to be saved from a burning building because he looks like he won't tip? These are all services people provide for your community which far outweighs a waiter's importance. If the drinks were available for me to get, I'd get it myself.
Once again, tipping is just a way of saving face or gaining respect from the person's dinner guest(s). Otherwise tipping wouldn't only be expected at places of luxury and relaxation, when you're with friends, collegues, family, or someone you're trying to get with.
No where in Asia is tipping expected. I tipped the chauffer who drove me from the airport to the hotel when I went to Taiwan and he declined. I left more than the required amount at the hotel restaurant and left. The waittress came running after me with my change. They get paid for providing a service and shouldn't expect to do a sloppy job if the customer doesn't give them more money than their employer charges. That really is extortion.
In the case of our waiter friend above, why shouldn't a teacher get tipped for spending extra time with a student? Would our sponsors require tip according to how many emails you sent him inquiring about products? Maybe a police officer should get tipped for rescuing someone? Should a fire fighter put some as last priority to be saved from a burning building because he looks like he won't tip? These are all services people provide for your community which far outweighs a waiter's importance. If the drinks were available for me to get, I'd get it myself.
Once again, tipping is just a way of saving face or gaining respect from the person's dinner guest(s). Otherwise tipping wouldn't only be expected at places of luxury and relaxation, when you're with friends, collegues, family, or someone you're trying to get with.
1) I'm from Taiwan, and you're right, no tipping is necessary. Service with a smile.
2) However, tipping IS a customary thing to do in the US. If you live there, and it looks like you do, you should go with it. You can call a tradtion "stupid" or whatever but respect it when you're there.
3) Civil workers (at least in NY) aren't allowed to receive cash tips. So don't worry about tipping cops, firemen and your mailman.
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People should tip accordingly for decent service. However if you give lousy service and have a "you must tip me big" attitude on top of that, not only will I not tip I'll complain to the manager the service you provide. In some cases that may not do anything, but in certain cases that employee might lose their job.