"tsunami song" on Hot 97 NYC
Originally Posted by jmc1971,Jan 27 2005, 07:25 PM
Content neutral time, place, and manner restrictions on free speech in public places have long been upheld if the law is not overbroad.
Slander and libel laws act as a restriction on free speech.
Some speech is restricted by various crim law statutes. (Blackmail, threats, etc)
Commercial speech, under the 1st Amend, is not given nearly the same deference as speech for the individual and has been greatly limited in some instances. Ask Marlboro and Jose Cuervo about this.
As far as broadcasting goes, the applicable case is likely FCC vs Pacifica Foundation, 438 U.S. 726 (1978). Shepard's reports that it has been critized by two more recent cases, but, as of a few minutes ago, it is still good case law. I can't say if the case is precisely on point with the tsunami song and Hot 97 as there's not enough information to determine that at this point.
Edit: Schenck v. United States, 249 U.S. 47 (1919) is not a good case to cite on tsunami song issue. It's about the distribution of a circular during WWI to cause insubordination among draftees or inductees.
Slander and libel laws act as a restriction on free speech.
Some speech is restricted by various crim law statutes. (Blackmail, threats, etc)
Commercial speech, under the 1st Amend, is not given nearly the same deference as speech for the individual and has been greatly limited in some instances. Ask Marlboro and Jose Cuervo about this.
As far as broadcasting goes, the applicable case is likely FCC vs Pacifica Foundation, 438 U.S. 726 (1978). Shepard's reports that it has been critized by two more recent cases, but, as of a few minutes ago, it is still good case law. I can't say if the case is precisely on point with the tsunami song and Hot 97 as there's not enough information to determine that at this point.
Edit: Schenck v. United States, 249 U.S. 47 (1919) is not a good case to cite on tsunami song issue. It's about the distribution of a circular during WWI to cause insubordination among draftees or inductees.
I have facts you have your opinion. Truth trumps opinion every time.
Slander and libel laws don't deal with free speach they deal with falsely testifying impeding the main ideal that all men have the right to persue happiness so long as there pursuit does not hinder others from the same pursuit.
Blackmail still doesn't hinder free speach. You can rat someone or not all day long you can't force someone to pay you money for your silence or under threat! What does that have to do with free speach?
The constitution was written for the people not companies!
I'll research your FCC case law and tear it apart later
Blackmail still doesn't hinder free speach. You can rat someone or not all day long you can't force someone to pay you money for your silence or under threat! What does that have to do with free speach?
The constitution was written for the people not companies!
I'll research your FCC case law and tear it apart later
From the case you quoted
The question in this case is whether a broadcast of patently offensive words dealing with sex and excretion may be regulated because of its content. Obscene materials have been denied the protection of the First Amendment because their content is so offensive to contemporary moral standards . . . But the fact that society may find speech offensive is not a sufficient reason for suppressing it. Indeed, if it is the speaker's opinion that gives offense, that consequence is a reason for according it constitutional protection. For it is a central tenet of the First Amendment that the government must remain neutral in the marketplace of ideas. If there were any reason to believe that the commission's characterization of the Carlin monologue as offensive could be traced to its political content - or even to the fact that it satirized contemporary attitudes about four-letter words - First Amendment protection might be required. But that is simply not this case. These words offend for the same reasons that obscenity offends . .
We have long recognized that each medium of expression presents special First Amendment problems . . . And of all forms of communication, it is broadcasting that has received the most limited First Amendment protection . . . The reasons for [that distinction] are complex, but two have relevance to the present case. First, the broadcast media have established a uniquely pervasive presence in the lives of all Americans. Patently offensive, indecent material presented over the airwaves confronts the citizen, not only in public, but also in the privacy of the home, where the individual's right to be left alone plainly outweighs the First Amendment rights of an intruder . . . Because the broadcast audience is constantly tuning in and out, prior warnings cannot completely protect the listener or viewer from unexpected program content . . .
Second, broadcasting is uniquely accessible to children, even those too young to read . . .
It is appropriate, in conclusion, to emphasize the narrowness of our holding. This case does not involve a two-way radio conversation between a cab driver and a dispatcher, or a telecast of an Elizabethan comedy. We have not decided that an occasional expletive in either setting would justify any saction or, indeed, that this broadcast would justify a criminal prosecution. The commission's decision rested entirely on a nuisance rationale under which context is all-important. The concept requires consideration of a host of variables. The time of day was emphasized by the commission. The content of the program in which the language is used will also affect the composition of the audience, and differences between radio, television, and perhaps closed-circuit transmissions, may also be relevant . . .
The judgment of the court of appeals is reversed.
[Omitted are the concurring opinions of Justices Powell and Blackmun and the dissenting opinions of Justices Brennan, Marshall, Stewart, and White.]
So are you attempting to prove my case?
A mans home is more protected than the rights of the whole united states sorry it doesn't say that in the consitution.
The question in this case is whether a broadcast of patently offensive words dealing with sex and excretion may be regulated because of its content. Obscene materials have been denied the protection of the First Amendment because their content is so offensive to contemporary moral standards . . . But the fact that society may find speech offensive is not a sufficient reason for suppressing it. Indeed, if it is the speaker's opinion that gives offense, that consequence is a reason for according it constitutional protection. For it is a central tenet of the First Amendment that the government must remain neutral in the marketplace of ideas. If there were any reason to believe that the commission's characterization of the Carlin monologue as offensive could be traced to its political content - or even to the fact that it satirized contemporary attitudes about four-letter words - First Amendment protection might be required. But that is simply not this case. These words offend for the same reasons that obscenity offends . .
We have long recognized that each medium of expression presents special First Amendment problems . . . And of all forms of communication, it is broadcasting that has received the most limited First Amendment protection . . . The reasons for [that distinction] are complex, but two have relevance to the present case. First, the broadcast media have established a uniquely pervasive presence in the lives of all Americans. Patently offensive, indecent material presented over the airwaves confronts the citizen, not only in public, but also in the privacy of the home, where the individual's right to be left alone plainly outweighs the First Amendment rights of an intruder . . . Because the broadcast audience is constantly tuning in and out, prior warnings cannot completely protect the listener or viewer from unexpected program content . . .
Second, broadcasting is uniquely accessible to children, even those too young to read . . .
It is appropriate, in conclusion, to emphasize the narrowness of our holding. This case does not involve a two-way radio conversation between a cab driver and a dispatcher, or a telecast of an Elizabethan comedy. We have not decided that an occasional expletive in either setting would justify any saction or, indeed, that this broadcast would justify a criminal prosecution. The commission's decision rested entirely on a nuisance rationale under which context is all-important. The concept requires consideration of a host of variables. The time of day was emphasized by the commission. The content of the program in which the language is used will also affect the composition of the audience, and differences between radio, television, and perhaps closed-circuit transmissions, may also be relevant . . .
The judgment of the court of appeals is reversed.
[Omitted are the concurring opinions of Justices Powell and Blackmun and the dissenting opinions of Justices Brennan, Marshall, Stewart, and White.]
So are you attempting to prove my case?
A mans home is more protected than the rights of the whole united states sorry it doesn't say that in the consitution.
Originally Posted by F1s2000,Jan 27 2005, 04:59 PM
Yeah and becarful when you falsely accuse someone of being a racist. 
Here we go the lastest case 1995
III. CONCLUSION
"If there is a bedrock principle underlying the First Amendment, it is that the government may not prohibit the expression of an idea simply because society finds the idea itself offensive or disagreeable." Texas v. Johnson, 491 U.S. 397, 414, 109 S.Ct. 2533, 2545, 105 L.Ed.2d 342 (1989). The Constitution, however, permits restrictions on speech where necessary in order to serve a compelling public interest, provided that they are nartowly tailored. We hold that section 16(a) serves such an interest. But because Congress imposed different restrictions on each of two categories of broadcasters while failing to explain how this disparate treatment advanced its goal of protecting young minds from the corrupting influences of indecent speech, we must set aside the more restrictive one. Accordingly, we remand this case to the Federal Communications Commission with instructions to limit its ban on the broadcasting of indecent programs to the period from 6:00 a.m. to 10:00 p.m.
It is so ordered.
I didn't hear any gratutious sexual content!
III. CONCLUSION
"If there is a bedrock principle underlying the First Amendment, it is that the government may not prohibit the expression of an idea simply because society finds the idea itself offensive or disagreeable." Texas v. Johnson, 491 U.S. 397, 414, 109 S.Ct. 2533, 2545, 105 L.Ed.2d 342 (1989). The Constitution, however, permits restrictions on speech where necessary in order to serve a compelling public interest, provided that they are nartowly tailored. We hold that section 16(a) serves such an interest. But because Congress imposed different restrictions on each of two categories of broadcasters while failing to explain how this disparate treatment advanced its goal of protecting young minds from the corrupting influences of indecent speech, we must set aside the more restrictive one. Accordingly, we remand this case to the Federal Communications Commission with instructions to limit its ban on the broadcasting of indecent programs to the period from 6:00 a.m. to 10:00 p.m.
It is so ordered.
I didn't hear any gratutious sexual content!
This is my whole point. These laws were written in 1787! That is why laws are amended and changed.....to fit the needs of the people of the times. Law exists to maintain order. Let's pretend that there was no FCC or governing body to regulate what is shown on TV and what is said on the air? Can you imagine the TOTAL ANARCHY that would explode? Laws are written, changed, and amended....FOR A REASON! This is why we HAVE A CONGRESS! BECAUSE TIMES CHANGE! But I feel that we are getting off topic. The fact is, the people have spoken and look at the result!
Originally Posted by exceltoexcel,Jan 27 2005, 05:43 PM
Here we go the lastest case 1995
III. CONCLUSION
"If there is a bedrock principle underlying the First Amendment, it is that the government may not prohibit the expression of an idea simply because society finds the idea itself offensive or disagreeable." Texas v. Johnson, 491 U.S. 397, 414, 109 S.Ct. 2533, 2545, 105 L.Ed.2d 342 (1989). The Constitution, however, permits restrictions on speech where necessary in order to serve a compelling public interest, provided that they are nartowly tailored. We hold that section 16(a) serves such an interest. But because Congress imposed different restrictions on each of two categories of broadcasters while failing to explain how this disparate treatment advanced its goal of protecting young minds from the corrupting influences of indecent speech, we must set aside the more restrictive one. Accordingly, we remand this case to the Federal Communications Commission with instructions to limit its ban on the broadcasting of indecent programs to the period from 6:00 a.m. to 10:00 p.m.
It is so ordered.
I didn't hear any gratutious sexual content!
III. CONCLUSION
"If there is a bedrock principle underlying the First Amendment, it is that the government may not prohibit the expression of an idea simply because society finds the idea itself offensive or disagreeable." Texas v. Johnson, 491 U.S. 397, 414, 109 S.Ct. 2533, 2545, 105 L.Ed.2d 342 (1989). The Constitution, however, permits restrictions on speech where necessary in order to serve a compelling public interest, provided that they are nartowly tailored. We hold that section 16(a) serves such an interest. But because Congress imposed different restrictions on each of two categories of broadcasters while failing to explain how this disparate treatment advanced its goal of protecting young minds from the corrupting influences of indecent speech, we must set aside the more restrictive one. Accordingly, we remand this case to the Federal Communications Commission with instructions to limit its ban on the broadcasting of indecent programs to the period from 6:00 a.m. to 10:00 p.m.
It is so ordered.
I didn't hear any gratutious sexual content!
Yeah the result is people still want to see tits and ass and those that do think those that don't need to learn tolerance
The law I just gave you is from 1995 and it doesn't trump the consitution it only explains what the current judges find acceptable. The surpreme court openly realizes that it's a hard line to draw. That why I would fight every fine all the way there and still broadcast. no matter how I look at it the first is the most important and should be taken just as is. you can change the consitution all you need is 2/3 of the legislature and 2/3 of the states to do so. Constitution trumps all.
The law I just gave you is from 1995 and it doesn't trump the consitution it only explains what the current judges find acceptable. The surpreme court openly realizes that it's a hard line to draw. That why I would fight every fine all the way there and still broadcast. no matter how I look at it the first is the most important and should be taken just as is. you can change the consitution all you need is 2/3 of the legislature and 2/3 of the states to do so. Constitution trumps all.


