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"Under God," Pledging is Out - Your .02!

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Old Jul 2, 2002 | 10:41 AM
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Originally posted by Phi2k
Ok, I guess you can call me one of the people that are easily offended because I feel like this was directed at me.
When I mentioned people being easily offended I was referring to the gentleman who filed the lawsuit.

(We're not suffering from a guilty conscience, are we? )
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Old Jul 2, 2002 | 11:02 AM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by magician
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That's easy to state, but difficult to define.
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Old Jul 2, 2002 | 11:35 AM
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Originally posted by ltweintz
. . .so lets just pretend for a minute that our pledge said "under Satan".
Some would argue that it already does. If you allow, as many on this thread have suggested, that "God" refers to any god--not merely the Christian God--then you could argue that the word could apply to Satan as well: "the god of this world" (II Cor. 4:4).

Apart from this, your analogy is poor. Athiests do not believe in God, and agnostics believe that we cannot know. It is not (remotely) the case that Christians, Jews, Muslims, and so on do not believe in Satan, nor that they believe we cannot know, which is what an accurate analogy requires. We do believe in Satan, and know him to be evil.

I realize that you chose "Satan" because you wanted to generate a response (Congratulations!), but to be accurate, you should have chosen "Santa Claus" or "the Easter Bunny".

(If this thread collapses into a philosophic argument about whether either of these two exists, I'm turning off my computer, leaving work, and going for a ride on my horse! )
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Old Jul 2, 2002 | 11:45 AM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by ltweintz
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I was waiting for someone to ask that Bill...

I think everyone should be able to make whatever choice they want as long as it affects only them.
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Old Jul 2, 2002 | 11:57 AM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by magician
[B](If this thread collapses into a philosophic argument about whether either of these two exists, I'm turning off my computer, leaving work, and going for a ride on my horse!
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Old Jul 2, 2002 | 12:03 PM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by magician
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Some would argue that it already does.
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Old Jul 2, 2002 | 12:10 PM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Garyj
[B]Not me.
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Old Jul 2, 2002 | 12:46 PM
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Should religious people even be allowed to own an S2000?
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Old Jul 2, 2002 | 12:53 PM
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Originally posted by Garyj
Should religious people even be allowed to own an S2000?
There's a footnote on the window sticker: *Sale to ascetics is prohibited. All others are fine.

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Old Jul 2, 2002 | 04:27 PM
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The following words were spoken by the late Red Skelton on his television program as he related the story of his teacher, Mr. Laswell, who felt his students had come to think of the Pledge of Allegiance as merely something to recite in class each day.

[QUOTE]I've been listening to you boys and girls recite the Pledge of Allegiance all semester and it seems as though it is becoming monotonous to you. If I may, may I recite it and try to explain to you the meaning of each word?"
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