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Old Dec 3, 2004 | 04:10 AM
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Originally Posted by EvoVII,Dec 3 2004, 01:23 AM
You have a child correct? Tell me that in itself is not a miracle.. Well, anyways, I hope that you let your child make his/her own decisions as she goes on in life.. too many people just following what their parents instilled in them without havin a mind of their own.
Is cloning a miracle or an biological proccess.
Old Dec 3, 2004 | 06:47 AM
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I haven't seen this many ignorant, generalistic, unqualified statements in my life. I'd laugh if it wasn't so pitiful.

PLYRS 3 - I guess you neglected to read past the crucifixion (or else you just don't believe it).

steve c - actually, you've only got part of the idea. The "hoodwinking" wouldn't include him dying for us only, but rather the fact that he rose again. Just so you know... Also, for someone that apparently has such disdain for Christianity (or any other religion), how in the world can you make comments about scriptural accuracy? You probably haven't read it all and you definitely haven't studied it - you, of all people, are least suited to make such a comment. It's like me reading a book in Spanish and saying it's nonsensical - I don't understand it, so of course it's nonsensical (to me). The realization required, of course, is that someone that knows Spanish can make sense of it. Catching my drift yet?

I'm sorry you don't see your child as a miracle. I was flabbergasted at the birth of mine - all I could see was what a miracle it was. I pity your lack of vision.
Old Dec 3, 2004 | 06:50 AM
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Originally Posted by suvh8r,Dec 3 2004, 07:10 AM
Is cloning a miracle or an biological proccess.
Both, really. They have to start with something from a human, hence it's still a miracle (to me). Yet, it is still (in most ways) a biological process.

They can't start with something inanimate and bring it to life. They still have to start with the "miracle" of life in order to get life again.
Old Dec 3, 2004 | 06:58 AM
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i dont care about religion and who believes in what, just dont tell me what to believe in.
nobody did tell you what to believe? thats part of why america was founded...for religous freedom
Old Dec 3, 2004 | 06:59 AM
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Originally Posted by EvoVII,Dec 2 2004, 11:10 PM
To those of no religious orientation, how can you not believe in anything?
Since when do you need a religion to believe in god? I was born and raised a catholic, made my confirmation and everything, but no longer claim a religion. I take more of a scientific approach to my beliefs. I have no idea whether or not god exists, how the universe was created, why we're here, etc and neither does anyone else. I do have some faith that a greater power exists, but I don't need a religion to explain it to me or tell me how to live my life. Who's to say which one is right or wrong? IMO, throughout history, organized religion has done more harm than good.
Old Dec 3, 2004 | 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by p0pe,Dec 3 2004, 07:59 AM
Since when do you need a religion do believe in god? I was born and raised a catholic, made my confirmation and everything, but no longer claim a religion. I take more of a scientific approach to my beliefs. I have no idea whether or not god exists, how the universe was created, why we're here, etc and neither does anyone else. I do have some faith that a greater power exists, but I don't need a religion to explain it to me or tell me how to live my life. Who's to say which one is right or wrong? IMO, throughout history, organized religion has done more harm than good.
I agree with everything in your post. In fact, I was also baptized Catholic... and since have happily left all organized religion behind.

There is a distinct difference between religion (organized religion) and spirituality. Namely money/power.

I find great irony in your screenname.









the dude licking his nipple is just plain wrong though!
Old Dec 3, 2004 | 07:16 AM
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Originally Posted by tritium_pie,Dec 3 2004, 10:13 AM
the dude licking his nipple is just plain wrong though!
Old Dec 3, 2004 | 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by p0pe,Dec 3 2004, 07:59 AM
Since when do you need a religion to believe in god? I was born and raised a catholic, made my confirmation and everything, but no longer claim a religion. I take more of a scientific approach to my beliefs. I have no idea whether or not god exists, how the universe was created, why we're here, etc and neither does anyone else. I do have some faith that a greater power exists, but I don't need a religion to explain it to me or tell me how to live my life. Who's to say which one is right or wrong? IMO, throughout history, organized religion has done more harm than good.
amen to that! 10000x
Old Dec 3, 2004 | 07:49 AM
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Why is it that so many of you non believers have such hatred for us believers?
Does that not give you pause to question your true core persona?
You choose to not believe because you simply don't want a God who rules the universe to rule over you!
Old Dec 3, 2004 | 07:52 AM
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Why, if the only route to salvation is through Christian baptism, have millions been allowed to be born in times and places where this would never be available to them?



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