see my above post

 

finally someone that sees past all the "macs are expensive" BS.


When I bought my macbook pro (when the unibodies frist came out), it was actually slightly cheaper then similar laptops at the time. Can't deny that they don't make a great laptop. Macpro's are also beast

 

as long as he bought it after june 26 and it runs vista in a higher flavor than basic.

link is here to check

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/buy...s/upgrade.aspx

 

f**kin great, i almost learn vista and a new one comes out


DAMN YOU BILL GATES

 

2000 was great. I almost miss it, but I was overdue for an upgrade.

when my desktop ate shit (large magnet + cpu = bad idea) and I got the laptop, it was preloaded with vista. I haven't had any real issues with it. plus, its easy to modify

 

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the first comparison i pulled up for a macbook was a dell vostro 13 inch. it comes with same processor, a gig more of ram, 80 gigs more hd space, and similar gfx card for 300 less. it beats the macbook pro even, for 500 less... ignoring that you would have to upgrade to 9 cell battery on the dell to stay on par with battery life.

 

I'm sorry Saki, that's just wrong. Plenty of $700 PCs are comparable to $1700 Macs... Ram, Processor, HD, AND battery. In fact, I'm seeing a lot of PCs with better battery life than the new MAC Pros. The software's nice, the package is good, it looks cool, but... not worth the additional $1000.

MACs are like Grey Goose Vodka. Pretty Bottle, might as well be drinking Stoli.

 

You didn't pull a very good comparison if that's what you got - you overlooked a lot of what a Mac comes with that you need to add to a Dell to get close. Lets take a detailed look:

The 13" Vostro 1320 starts at $1000, the 13" MacBook Pro is $1200, and a regular MacBook, which is most like the Vostro with its plastic body, $1000.

For the Dell, add $85 to get the same 2.26Ghz processor as the 13" MacBook Pro, $46 for the integrated webcam, $25 for Bluetooth, $50 for the cheapest 802.11a/g/n wireless card, and $110 for a similar graphics card to both the Mac's. Grand total, $1,407. Add $70 for the 9-cell battery to get life equal to the Mac's 7-hour battery and you get $1,477.

The Dell comes with 4GB RAM, so you'll need to add 2Gb to the MacBook Pro at $100, and another $50 for a 250GB hdd. Grand total, $1,350. The MacBook also comes with the backlit keyboard, SD slot for reading cards, and iLife free, fwiw, but we'll not add those parts to this list.

For a regular $1000 MacBook that has the 2.16Ghz processor, you can match RAM and hdd size and get a final price of $1,149.

So, Dell - $1,447, MacBook Pro - $1,350, MacBook - $1,149.

You can clearly see that Macs are no more expensive than comparably equipped PCs - actually, the Dell costs more. Dell is however offering a $300 rebate right now - so with that, you get some savings while that lasts, but even with $300 off, the price difference is only a couple hundred for the MacBook Pro, and the Dell is still more expensive than the regular MacBook.

Add the intrinsic value of a solid metal case, iLife, the backlit keyboard, magnetic power cord, standard keyboard, silent fan, and you easily get some value add that exceeds the Dell.

You can get a PC like the Dell Vostro for a lot less money because Apple doesn't sell stripped-down versions of its computers, but don't equate that with the myth that Macs are more expensive.

 

Feel free to show off some of these $700 PCs - I'd love to see them. They may come close on those few specs, but you're not getting the complete package. Then again, that doesn't matter to some people - I just want to point out that net-net Macs cost pretty much the same as PCs.

Also, the longest batteries I've seen for laptops are the slice battery extensions - you add these huge batteries to certain Dells and HPs and get longer battery life, but they are not built-ins like the normal 4-9 cell batteries and add considerable weight to the laptops - 20% or so of total weight.

Also, remember that most computer manufacturers today use lithium-ion batteries as opposed to Apple's more-advanced lithium-polymer batteries.

 

Guys, there is no point in arguing with SakiGT. He/She is blinded by Apple/Jobs. He/she is an iZombie and there is no saving him/her. I would just stop.

SakiGT is further unaware of boutique laptops such as Hypersonic and Sager (and many others).

On a second note Bill Gates is no longer running Microsoft. He is still on the board, but is currently involved in philanthropy.