You guys and your women like bickering

 

I would not compare those two. Firstly, Dell is a sorry excuse for a company as of late. HP/Asus are the way to go.

I'm looking at the 15" size computers. Many of those Macbook Pros at 15"s are barely hitting 4hrs of battery life, as opposed to the PC counterparts which are getting closer to 7.

This HP is $919. It includes 1 battery capable of 8hrs of life, and another capable of over 5. So, over 13hrs total of battery life. The 2.26 Processor, 4GB of Ram, 320GB. And yes, a Back-Lit Keyboard. (and Media Card Slots).

Color Espresso Black edit
Operating system Genuine Windows Vista Home Premium with Service Pack 1 (64-bit) edit
Processor Intel

 

how would Apple stack up against these? i am honestly curious. I only see Mac Pros starting at $2500.
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I agree. And there are plenty of macbooks that go OTD for far less than $2000. I just bought a 2.26 gig 2GB 13 inch macbook pro after cross-shopping a lot of different similarly-equipped PC laptops. I paid $1099 for the computer itself and bought the Applecare protection plan (both after academic discounts). And they gave me an iPod Touch. All OTD for about $1400 after tax. I felt that I was getting a better deal from Mac because it felt, subjectively, substantially better engineered and built. I suppose you could say it felt cohesive, like it was all designed to work together (go figure). I wanted to wait until Windows 7 ships on PC laptops, and I would especially like to be able to use a program called OneNote, which is the best notetaking software available (let me know if you use something else and like it, I'm in the market). Go to any college campus (I am a grad student) and you will see that Apple is killing Windows in the 18-24 market. I think that they haven't ported OneNote to Office for Mac in part because they know that it's the only hook keeping many people from transitioning to Mac...and ultimately wasn't compelling enough for me to stay loyal.

I was compelled to buy the Mac after looking at a number of comparably powerful and small PC notebooks, none of which was even remotely close in terms of build quality. It seemed that the PC notebooks were either 15-17 inch monster desktop replacements or expensive superlights. I am, quite frankly, shocked that no PC manufacturer has attempted to compete directly with Apple by offering simple, functional design in an attractive package (I do NOT want an alligator print red laptop, or those ridiculous designs that cover HP laptops on every surface) with good build quality and a midrange price. The Dell Adamo is a sorry attempt to match the Macbook Air...it's a couple years late, and not very powerful or attractive. In a world of Netbooks, it's impossible to justify paying $2000 for an Adamo when an equally powerful package exists for $300.

Quick2k

 

It looks good, but underneath the shiny exterior the perfomance isn't that much better. I saw an article on benchmarks and a lot of things are SLOWER than windows XP. That's SLOWER than a windows OS written about 10 years ago.

So while it's certainly better than windows vista (which was, let's face it, junk), it's not a huge improvement. While it is an improvement, they need to address some of the core issues of windows, which involves a massive rewrite of the code, not just adding a new dock.

btw I am a 3 OS user, Mac OS X, Debian Linux and Windows XP. OS X is pretty far ahead of the game nowadays, and while windows 7 is catching up, OS X is still 2-3 years ahead imo.

 

wtf PC gets 7 hours of battery life except a little pos netbook? I boot into windows on my macbook and I'm lucky to get 2 hours at best. There are numerous articles on how inefficent windows is at battery life compared to OSX...that's a known fact

My unibody macbook pro gets 5 hours of battery life while doing basic tasks. The new integrated battery macbooks are getting 7+ hours...that's with a full screen (not a pos 8" net book screen).


Facts please....

 

[QUOTE=HKStallion,Aug 13 2009, 05:26 PM] how would Apple stack up against these? i am honestly curious. I only see Mac Pros starting at $2500.
the links can be found on Gotapex.com

 

Turn the argument if you want - it wasn't me that compared a Mac to a Dell, I just pointed out that the OP was not correct in saying macs are more expensive.

People say that Macs are more expensive than PCs, yet I just proved that's not true. Arguing that I should be looking at HPs or Acers instead of Dells is a moot point - PCs can and do cost more than Macs. Macs just don't play in the low end of the market.

You can go back and forth all day looking for price advantages, but face the fact that Macs are not that, if any, more expensive than PC alternatives on a hardware basis, and when you look at all the software and workflow advantages, Macs are a great option, although they're not for everyone.

 

Fwiw, my Thinkpad T61's extended 9-cell battery gets 2 to 2.5 hours on a full charge, and has since its new. Battery life is horrible for it, yet its rated at 6 hours. My MacBook Pro is listed at 7 hours and typically gets 4-5.

Of course, battery testing methods are bunk if you ask me - they basically test an idling computer with all services off and screen brightness set to minimum - not how people actually use computers.

 

[QUOTE=HowardZinn,Aug 13 2009, 08:19 PM] It looks good, but underneath the shiny exterior the perfomance isn't that much better.