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Originally Posted by HvRRZ,Jul 5 2008, 07:49 AM
eurotrashdtm - As you can see in my sig I already have one daily, and am in the process of getting another. Now the S will be made into a strictly for track purposes. While it's great in stock form I feel like I need to move on and take it to another level. I'm still undecided as to what route to take for power. Whatever it is though these width for the tires will come in handy.
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Originally Posted by SidwayS2k,Jul 5 2008, 08:18 PM
Anyone have any idea how much negative camber i would have to run on 17x8 the front +28 offset and 17x10 in the rear +35 offset with rolled fenders and stretched tires of course??
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hmm im a newbie.. wuts all this aggression for ? is it for better handling ? is it practical ? from what im assuming wont this drag the car more, since you have to do some crazy camber to it ? in a straight line i see the car has to struggle more to go straight, but in the corners i guess its a good thing ? but when is to much camber a bad thing ? im not hating or anything, i love the looks.. any info would be greatly appreciated !
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Aggressive wheel fitments is for looks. People usually do non-beneficial-to-performance things to try and fit aggressive wheels under fenders, including too much lowering, too much camber, etc. You can argue that it performs better by widening the track, but that's never the primary reason, because most do not opt to fit larger tires, which should be the first thing you should try to do.
Too much camber is bad for a lot of reasons. It reduces your contact patch, which means #1, it lengthens your braking distance. #2, too much rear camber reduces your rear grip, which directly affects your ability to put down power (and in turn, increases the risk of you spinning). And of course it hurts your tire wear characteristics.
S2000's with it's double wishbone suspension has relatively good camber gain from the factory. While the factory alignment specifications *is* a compromise between being that it's a street car and consumers require reasonable tire wear characteristics, running excessive amounts of camber is not increasing your grip since you're only using the inner half of your tire. Perhaps if you ran aggressive camber with race tires, you'd be able to generate enough grip to use the entire tire, but I have no empirical data on any tires.
It shouldn't hurt your straightline stability or speed, because radial tires maintain a constant across the tread width, regardless of the load characteristics (until you start heavily wearing one edge more than the rest of the tire).
That said, I think it looks badass. It's a street car, and I'm fine with not getting 10/10ths of grip out of it.
Too much camber is bad for a lot of reasons. It reduces your contact patch, which means #1, it lengthens your braking distance. #2, too much rear camber reduces your rear grip, which directly affects your ability to put down power (and in turn, increases the risk of you spinning). And of course it hurts your tire wear characteristics.
S2000's with it's double wishbone suspension has relatively good camber gain from the factory. While the factory alignment specifications *is* a compromise between being that it's a street car and consumers require reasonable tire wear characteristics, running excessive amounts of camber is not increasing your grip since you're only using the inner half of your tire. Perhaps if you ran aggressive camber with race tires, you'd be able to generate enough grip to use the entire tire, but I have no empirical data on any tires.
It shouldn't hurt your straightline stability or speed, because radial tires maintain a constant across the tread width, regardless of the load characteristics (until you start heavily wearing one edge more than the rest of the tire).
That said, I think it looks badass. It's a street car, and I'm fine with not getting 10/10ths of grip out of it.
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I believe I have learned quiet a bit already. I've already made my decision, and just wanted to say thanks to everyone throwing in their helpful tips. I'll rethink tire sizes as well and possible go a bit lower.