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Old Mar 29, 2013 | 07:32 PM
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i have to say on my '03 AP1, I have nearly 1/4" total rear toe (actually 0.50 degrees total with 0.25 degrees per rear side). I agree with ZDAN above regarding the higher front camber and lower rear camber- that is not ideal. I would think your camber settings would encourage more oversteer, but i'm not an alignment specialist.

I hope i'm not muddying the waters here, but i have had no issues with this toe alignment setting above. Tire wear is of little concern to me since i replace them every 2 years regardless.
For further reference, i have zero front toe. camber in F for me is -1.7 degrees per side, R -2.0 degrees per side.

the whole alignment issue has been discussed extensively before and an excellent reference is here

http://robrobinette.com/S2000Alignment.htm

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Old Mar 31, 2013 | 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by darcyw
i have to say on my '03 AP1, I have nearly 1/4" total rear toe (actually 0.50 degrees total with 0.25 degrees per rear side). I agree with ZDAN above regarding the higher front camber and lower rear camber- that is not ideal. I would think your camber settings would encourage more oversteer, but i'm not an alignment specialist.

I hope i'm not muddying the waters here, but i have had no issues with this toe alignment setting above. Tire wear is of little concern to me since i replace them every 2 years regardless.
For further reference, i have zero front toe. camber in F for me is -1.7 degrees per side, R -2.0 degrees per side.

the whole alignment issue has been discussed extensively before and an excellent reference is here

http://robrobinette.com/S2000Alignment.htm

darcy
your rear toe at 0.5 Deg or 0 deg 30 mins total is quite reasonable. tried it before. Maybe you can try 0.3 deg total, the results may surprise you.

Our friend above is running 0.8 deg total which is pretty far off...
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Old Jul 10, 2013 | 03:37 AM
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1st time posting. I just bought a 2002 Sebring Silver with DGR coil-overs on July 1st.

Question: I recently had an alignment done as well, and the toe settings are slightly higher on the right rear than the left rear. The front end is slightly off -.05 left and -.03 right, but the rear end is off by about .06 degrees. Rear left is .20 and right is .26, the shop owner(who also has an s2000) where I got my alignment done said it was fine and that I wouldn't notice it. However I do notice it, especially when coming out of corners, it's as if the left does something different than the right. My question is, is this behavior normal for ap1's, or am I noticing the different toe values? Everything else is dead even, both camber and caster are the same on both sides.

The car tracks straight with this setting, but like I said the behavior is different on each side during corner exit, it's nothing I can't drive around but it does sap a bit of confidence.

Edit: I realize how foolish I am about these cars, apparently the previous owner attempted to lower the car further before selling it to me but must have been smoking something and only lowered the front left and rear left wheels. Not to mention it was already too low to begin with.
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Old Jul 13, 2013 | 07:04 AM
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Even out the height settings and go for the toe in Zdan recommends which I consider to be absolutely spot on
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Old Jul 13, 2013 | 06:57 PM
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I checked the ride height as you suggested, and it was off, I raised it to match the highest setting. This helped tremendously, I know the difference between toe in and toe out. I got it realigned and set toe in front to zero both sides, .25 in the rear also both sides. I think I'll stick to tuning the dampers instead of aggressive alignment settings to get the balance I want.
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Old Jul 14, 2013 | 09:58 AM
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Let it be known that ANY changes to ride height will change you camber and toe. You will need to adjust the alignment every time you adjust your ride height.


OP, ask around at local autocross and hpde events to find out who the reputable alignment technicians are in your area. The shop who did your alignment didn't event consider to measure or adjust the caster on your vehicle(caster, camber, and toe is adjustable in the front).
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Old Jul 16, 2013 | 08:37 PM
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Thanks yes I know, even so much as raising the car 1/16th of an inch.
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