Hi guys.

Does anyone know if the 9833 is still available. It seemed to me that the combination of parametric EQ and programmable delay by ouput channel would be ideal for the S.

I know that this is a discontinued model but are they still available reasonably? Searches I have done have only revealed a couple of vendors I was not familiar with and pricing in the $350.00 range which I think is quite high compared to where they were selling.

Is there a functional equivalent now from Alpine that does not lose any of the 9833 features?

What other useful features have you guys found in these head units?

 

i actually just recently purchased a 9833 to gain some of the EQ and crossover options.

i paid $300 for a on wall demo unit. i felt that was a good price from an authorized dealer. you're going to have trouble finding new units, and iirc, the dealer cost on that unit was in the $28x range, so paying $350 isn't outlandish at all (25% markup), considering car stereo typically is marked up almost 100%. the 9833 MSRP'ed for $500 iirc.

regarding a comparable unit? the 9855 and 9835 should be reasonably similar, but you may or may not like the glide touch interface. be sure to check it out in advance before buying.

 

Thanks, Phil. I had heard some bad things about reliablility (of the glide bar I think) on the 9855 but I imagine that Alpine will sort it out. I went to Best Buy but they didn't know dcik about the features of the units. Only what it said on the tags. I guess I'll need to do some studying on the web site.

 

the reliability issues that i heard were related to the motorized face. but the glide touch can be quite frustrating. it's either a love or hate relationship i think.


i know most of the major features, etc. for the latest couple crops of Alpine. ask away.

 

how's the alpine 9851 then? Thinking about picking it up along with a set of type-r components (spr-17ls) and a 4 channel (mrp-f240). Thanks, and don't mean to hijack the thread.

 

the 9851's decent... but it lacks several key features of the 9833/9835/9855.

no crossovers, no Parametric EQ, no 4 volt pre-amp outs, and no time correction.
(note, these are key features that stand out in my mind, not the only different features.)
there are also changes on displays and other stuff that doesn't stand out in my mind as much.

 

Oooh, so 9835 and 9855 have programmable crossover, parametric EQ, and time correction? Those are probably the key features I am looking for (well, graphic EQ is OK too but parametric is more flexible).

1st question: What is a major difference between the 9835 and 9855 feature wise?
2nd question: How does the time correction work? For example, can I delay the left front compared to the right front and delay them both compared to the rears if I want to?

 

ok... i'm going mostly by memory here (as work is kinda busy today and i shouldn't be looking up a lot of specs and manuals):

yes, the 9835 and 9855 both have 5 band Parametric EQ's, 6 channel (2 front, 2 rear, 2 subs) time correction, and a 2 way or 3 way crossover. the EQ, TC, and X-over settings can have up to 6 presets stored.

to explain the crossover:
you can select either a 2 way or 3 way crossover. the 3 way is for bi-amping components. 1 section is for the sub, 1 for the midrange, and 1 for tweeters. the 2 way allows you to cross over fronts, rears, and sub separately. i've not played much w/ the 3 way, so i'm unsure of all the options available.

iirc, w/ the 2 way crossover, it allows you to cross over the fronts and subs at 1/3 octave selections and slopes of -6 dB, -12 dB, -18 dB, and -24 dB. i think the range of crossover points are 20 hz to 200 hz. the front and rear are independant. also, fronts, rears, and the sub all have independant output gain reduction controls... (ie, you can adjust the pre-amp output level from 0 dB to -15 dB to accomodate various limitations on amps pre-amp input voltage ranges, to prevent clipping distortion, sound balancing, etc.)

1st:
key differences between the 9835 and 9855 that i can immediately recall:
-9855 allows for a hardwire input for dash controls. Alpine has or will have for the US a module that's directly compatible w/ the S. currently, that module is available in Europe.
-the 9855 has a switchable EQ option. you can either use the 5 band PEQ or a 7 band traditional EQ
-i THINK that with the 9855, you can input time correction figures in via distances (instead of having to calc out the milli-second delay), and i'm pretty SURE the 9835 doesn't support this. (this could be completely wrong here)
-the 9855 has the 'Glide Touch' interface.
-the way the display handles text and graphics are slightly different between the 2. the 9855 is slightly more advanced in how it does this...
-the 9855 has an adjustable 'dim level' for when you turn on your headlights.
-the 9855 handles IPOD management a bit faster than the 35 (based on some VERY limited experience)
-the 9835 supports the MMDrive that Alpine offered. the 9855 does not. (chances are, if you don't know what this is? you don't care.)


also, unlike the 9835/33 (which were essentially identical in features aside from the bio-lite display), the 9855 and 9853 have more differences between them (the 9853 actually lacks what i would consider a couple rather useful features the 9855 has).


2nd:
yes. and even delay them differently than the subs.

 

WOW! Ok, who on the board is the king of finding good pricing? Also, thanks, Phil. That was incredibly helpful. Shit sure has changed since I last put in an aftermarket head unit (1987?).

 

Dave (NYC) is good at finding good pricing online.
i usually buy locally when i can... given the age of the 9833, chances are you may be able to find one locally on someone's shelf and cut a good deal for it since it's last year's stock. a good price for one NIB would be $350 or less.


glad i could help you out.