Where could I get that laser absorbing stuff? Does it really work?

 

I have a V1 and an 8500 X50 Blue - ran them side by side for a couple weeks and found the V1 was more sensitive, picking up the bogey a second or two sooner. The downside is that the V1 reports more false bogeys than the 8500, but it does have the "J" junk signal feature if it determines the signal is not a real bogey.

I have the 8500 in the Pilot and the V1 in the S2000 - once you have those directional arrows you feel nekid without them.

 

Here is the website for the Veil. It gives your headlights a smoked look.

http://www.laserveil.com/

 

Thanks!!

 

Based on my experiences as a former prosecutor for two long and miserable years (1980-1982) the "motors" (the expression given to cops riding motorcycles) love to brag about their most recent stop involving an expensive vehicle especially high priced sports cars. They look forward to swapping stories involving issuing citations to the drivers of expensive German sedans and camero and corvettes. Without boring everyone to death here, virtually every cop that joins the motor division envies drivers of all expensive cars (especially sport cars) since those cars represent a life style beyond the financial reach of most cops. Therefore, the tend to have no compassion or caring as to your reason for speeding (unless your house really is on fire.)

I firmly believe that there is no pursuasive discussion available to a driver of a sports car or high performing sedan that will convince a city cop to issue a warning, even if you swear to donate a couple dozen jelly donuts to the local police district every Friday. The exception, of course, is if there is a valid medical emergency or in a rare instance the cop is attracted to the driver for personal reasons. Then the circumstances may change somewhat but I would still bet that the odds of receiving a ticket vs. warning to be 99 to 1. However, I have known of two motors that have admitted to obtaining a few dates using this method.

In my humble opinion, virtually any diver speeding on city streets is more likely to enjoy the experience of receiving a speeding ticket since radar detectors are virtually worthless in this environment. There are too many visual obstructions for a motor to hide behind so you will not see him until you have not only been visually observed to be speeding, and been zapped by the radar unit. Even without a radar reading, I was successful once in convicting a driver of speeding 20 over the limit based solely on the cops visual opinion of the driver's speed. Yes, tickets are a revenue and judges are more likely to rule in favor of the cops' testimony than the defendant since the cop has received training on estimating visual speeds of cars coming toward, going away, and crossing in front of him/her and everyone knows that the testimony of a police officer is always objective in reciting the facts of the case. RIGHT!!

However, if the radar detector is of the type to pick up the frequencies used by photo radar units, then this presents a huge advantage to those of us provided that level of traffic ahead of us is relatively constant and the radar detection unit is strong enough to pick up the refraction from the laser which is quite low.

Highway driving is a totally different situation where having a radar detection devise is of great benefit. Nevertheless, it is just as important for the driver to maintain constant visual observation of the numbr and type of vehicles behind as well as in front. The detector will be worthless if the patrolman is in an unmarked vehicle and follows your car at the same pace for a mile at a high level of speed.

Since highway patrolmen normally work alone, if you see one stopped and investigating the driver of the other stopped vehicle, then it is likely that the next several miles are void of speed enforcement with the exception of the instant on radar contained in the cruiser traveling toward the site as a back up. But the safety of the officer stopping the car is typically more important that having the back up car turn around to stop you for speeding unless it is really at an excessive speed.

Good luck to all and safe driving to all of us S2k lovers.

 

Amen brotha! I totally agree and you could not be more correct.

 

[QUOTE=AGBLLET,Jan 20 2007, 06:06 PM]Highway driving is a totally different situation where having a radar detection devise is of great benefit.

 

Hi Chuhsi!

Perhaps the date you were stopped was near the the end of the month and extra revenue was needed to make payrol!! Or maybe the two cops just finished their donut break and timing was not on your side.

In all seriousness, I completely agree with your position in that all we drivers can do is gereralize the traits and habits of cops based on our experiences. There are exceptions to most everthing since the highway patrolmen are always trying new tactics.

For example, when my brother was a DPS patrolmen, he would work in tandem with another patrol car. Once he spotted a vehicle that he observed traveling at an excessive high rate of speed and was unable to get a reading, then he would jump on his throttle and pass that car like there was no tomorrow. His reasoning was that once the perceived speeder saw his patrol car head off into the sunset then the speeder would start speeding again. Then the speeder was merely paced from behind by my brother's parnter driving the unmarked unit and that was all she wrote!

For what is is worth, it should be noted that as soon as a radar detector alarm goes off, it is a way good idea to slow the vehcle down as fast as possible. Many times cops are trying to see if you are accellerating and do not secure the speed on his radar gun before you have slowed down. For some reason, the k band units have some difficulty in locking in a speed when the car decellerates at a high rate. I do not know if this system works for laser. Then the cop has to simply write the citation based on his observation and of course he will notet that the front end of you car dipped substanstially inferreing that you were stopping hard to avoid a ticket. In the courtroom setting, there are many reasons why cars act in a lot of different was for many different reasons.

 

okay here's the deal. I am a Military Police officer, and have been attached to the traffic section for 2 years now( basically speed surveys, dui check points, dui enforcement, speed enforcement etc...) i have been running radar<-- cop term for radar enforcement, for the last two years and i will tell you that radar detectors are all garbage. Most law enforcement agencies are going to lasar(laser long range aimable detection)anyhow, and all the radar detector is going to do is tell you that your going to get pulled over and probably yelled at and then harassed and then cited(none of which i do, i usually give verbal or written warnings). Radar works on the radar gun like it works for a plane, it sends out a signal and then shows speed and location if its the expensive kind. By the time your radar detector goes off, the radar signal is already on its way back to the cop telling you how fast you were going at the time of the first trigger pull, also if he's running stationary radar(side of the road hiding) then your radar isn't going to go off until he pulls the trigger anyhow so yeah...to make a long story short, don't waste your money. JUST MY TWO CENTS.....

 

Well according to radiation physics and principle of how a RD works is "IF" you are not the one that the beam is directly aimed at, the detectors pick up the secondary radiation that falls off of the beam called scatter. I agree that if you are the only person on the road and no other cars around, your detector is useless. Im situations where there are many cars on the road and the cop has already been clocking, you pick up this scatter radiation and know to slow down. Many cops are trained how to play word games and not enough in radiation physics to make an educated statement on wether a RD works or not. Now in the situations where your detector will simply not pick up a signal are some guns that hop frequencies out of the range that you detect.
Having a RD doesnt not convict you as guilty even when puled over for speeding, it is your best bet to say nothing at all to the cop when he plays his word games to get you to admit guilt. We all know then "Do you know why I pulled you over?", "Do you know how fast you were going", "Why are you in such a hurry?", "Do you know the speed limit on this road?" all 2 sided coins they use to burn you, simply say nothing to them and your traffic attourney will have a much easier time having the charge dropped. Radars are not 100% accurate; however, they are the most statistical method of getting a person into the situation so the cop has reason to pull you over and play word games so you incriminate yourself.
Now in the sense where a cop tells you a radar detector is garbage, if he is saying that a detector designed to detect waves of same frequency, then he needs to take some classes on radiation physics and get over himself and his badge.