Modular Amp Rack for my Rio S2000 *pics
I'm thinking of doing a setup much like yours. I have the K2Ps, the PDX-4.150, however, I'm confused about subs. I see that the 10w6 sub you have has dual 4ohm voice coils. The way I understand how this stuff works is that this means that the PDX is able to bridge the 3/4 channels alone at a stable 2ohms.
I'm also looking at a dual 4ohm sub (the alphasonik PSW8104j), but am concerned about the PDX being able to handle this. I would go ahead and get the dual 2 ohm version of the alpha sub, but I need to wait 4 weeks for that one.
So you think I would be OK with the 4ohm dual voice coil sub? BTW, what ohm load ends up being given to your K2Ps in your setup, 2 or 4?
Thanks, Derek
I'm also looking at a dual 4ohm sub (the alphasonik PSW8104j), but am concerned about the PDX being able to handle this. I would go ahead and get the dual 2 ohm version of the alpha sub, but I need to wait 4 weeks for that one.
So you think I would be OK with the 4ohm dual voice coil sub? BTW, what ohm load ends up being given to your K2Ps in your setup, 2 or 4?
Thanks, Derek
Originally Posted by greenman,Aug 13 2006, 05:17 PM
I'm thinking of doing a setup much like yours. I have the K2Ps, the PDX-4.150, however, I'm confused about subs. I see that the 10w6 sub you have has dual 4ohm voice coils. The way I understand how this stuff works is that this means that the PDX is able to bridge the 3/4 channels alone at a stable 2ohms.
I'm also looking at a dual 4ohm sub (the alphasonik PSW8104j), but am concerned about the PDX being able to handle this. I would go ahead and get the dual 2 ohm version of the alpha sub, but I need to wait 4 weeks for that one.
So you think I would be OK with the 4ohm dual voice coil sub? BTW, what ohm load ends up being given to your K2Ps in your setup, 2 or 4?
Thanks, Derek
I'm also looking at a dual 4ohm sub (the alphasonik PSW8104j), but am concerned about the PDX being able to handle this. I would go ahead and get the dual 2 ohm version of the alpha sub, but I need to wait 4 weeks for that one.
So you think I would be OK with the 4ohm dual voice coil sub? BTW, what ohm load ends up being given to your K2Ps in your setup, 2 or 4?
Thanks, Derek
The only reason the amp would see something else is if you are wiring more than 1 speaker together or a dual coil (i.e. subwoofer)
Yes the PDX amp is perfectly fine with the dual 6 ohm coils wired in parallel to get 3 ohms mono.
I've driven this car on long road trips and no overheating or clipping issues so you should be fine.
rick
Originally Posted by s4play,Jun 23 2006, 10:51 AM
No problem Mikey - too many threads out there 
Well the biggest determining factor when building amp racks over the gas tank I found out is thickness of the wood board and also how you mount it to the car.
I ended up using 1/2" MDF wood with a pattern I traced out of cardboard. I tried to flatten it as much as I could to keep the height to a minimum but I think the amp would just barely hit the tray if I left it in place. One thing to keep in mind is that if you do have the tray, it will be VERY hard to squeeze that amp in while the tray cover is on there. I guess you could remove it and then reinstall it but we all know how hard that is!
Probably to clear the plastic tray you would need to make the amp rack out of thick gauge sheet metal. That would give you the extra 1/4" to clear the plastic tub.
I still don't see why most people keep that tray cover in the car - once the amp is sitting there, just create a small cover for it using wood and line it in felt liner. On the opposite site, create a small "rail" to support the glass window and then you're done.
My g/f loves the fact she can thrown stuff over her seat direction into the spare tire trunk section! It's like having a 3rd secret compartment
Rick

Well the biggest determining factor when building amp racks over the gas tank I found out is thickness of the wood board and also how you mount it to the car.
I ended up using 1/2" MDF wood with a pattern I traced out of cardboard. I tried to flatten it as much as I could to keep the height to a minimum but I think the amp would just barely hit the tray if I left it in place. One thing to keep in mind is that if you do have the tray, it will be VERY hard to squeeze that amp in while the tray cover is on there. I guess you could remove it and then reinstall it but we all know how hard that is!
Probably to clear the plastic tray you would need to make the amp rack out of thick gauge sheet metal. That would give you the extra 1/4" to clear the plastic tub.
I still don't see why most people keep that tray cover in the car - once the amp is sitting there, just create a small cover for it using wood and line it in felt liner. On the opposite site, create a small "rail" to support the glass window and then you're done.
My g/f loves the fact she can thrown stuff over her seat direction into the spare tire trunk section! It's like having a 3rd secret compartment

Rick
The best way to imagine this is:
I have built a small tray over the spare tire section that serves double duty as support for the glass top when it's retracted.
The other side where the amp is located I built a similiar rail around the amp that gives the amp cooling and also supports the glass top on that side.
You can easily reach over the seat roll hoops to the trunk area if need be to get a sweatshirt, etc....
rick
I have built a small tray over the spare tire section that serves double duty as support for the glass top when it's retracted.
The other side where the amp is located I built a similiar rail around the amp that gives the amp cooling and also supports the glass top on that side.
You can easily reach over the seat roll hoops to the trunk area if need be to get a sweatshirt, etc....

rick
Everything you have done looks fantastic. Just a word of caution though. I used to run the PDX4.150 and PDX1000.1 in my S. Had them flush mounted into each side of the trunk. the 4.150 no matter what head unit I had or what signal cables I used always had a trace of noise in it. I spoke with several installers and they agreed that every install they had done with the Class D topology of this amp, it always presented noise in the system to a degree, and gets worse over time. My rear channel eventually failed. My PDX1000.1 melted itself twice, the fuses and surrounding plastic area completely fused together without blowing the fuses. My wiring and install was not in question, and turned out to be a poor design on the PCB according to Alpine support. Newer models supposedly had this fixed, but I gave up on both amps and installed a pair of Phoenix Gold ti600.2's and life is good again. Not trying to rain on your parade, I really liked the size of the amps but it turned out the trade off's weren't worth it for me. That and I have the worst luck in the world. In conclusion, I am simply trying to help you in advance when and if problems start to arise, you'll have some knowledge on these little babies.
just read the rest of the thread and thought I would add this: when I had finally given up on the 4.150, I ran the front channel bridged 2 ohm mono to a Boston G2 and it never shut off and ran for hours at a time.
And there are component speakers out there in 2 ohm flavor, not just 4 ohm.
And there are component speakers out there in 2 ohm flavor, not just 4 ohm.
Nice setup. I'm interested in getting a related amp, the MRP-F250, and putting it in the same spot.
Couple questions:
1. Is it required to bolt the amp to a rack and then put the rack in the space? Or could I secure it above the gas tank in a less permanent fashion, like with zip ties or that industrial velcro? I realize it needs to be immobile in a crash, but really, how far is this thing going to move, seeing as it is jammed in there pretty tight? I'm not interested in making it "pretty" since it will be invisible, I just want it to be safe and not move around too much.
2. Any ventilation problems? I don't anticipate pushing it too hard too often, and the climate in Chicago isn't exactly Death Valley like, but I don't want to burn up the amp, either.
Couple questions:
1. Is it required to bolt the amp to a rack and then put the rack in the space? Or could I secure it above the gas tank in a less permanent fashion, like with zip ties or that industrial velcro? I realize it needs to be immobile in a crash, but really, how far is this thing going to move, seeing as it is jammed in there pretty tight? I'm not interested in making it "pretty" since it will be invisible, I just want it to be safe and not move around too much.
2. Any ventilation problems? I don't anticipate pushing it too hard too often, and the climate in Chicago isn't exactly Death Valley like, but I don't want to burn up the amp, either.
Chris Stack: If you leave your rear shelf in place then I guess you could just "wedge" it in there but that is just not how I install things into my car plus you'll suffocate the amp with no cooling area.....
I lived in Chicago (midwest) for 20+ years and I can tell you it' gets SUPER HOT there in the summer not to mention humidity so not sure what part you live in...hahaha
I would just build a small amp rack and do it right.........
g'luck,
rick
I lived in Chicago (midwest) for 20+ years and I can tell you it' gets SUPER HOT there in the summer not to mention humidity so not sure what part you live in...hahaha
I would just build a small amp rack and do it right.........
g'luck,
rick
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