Need help from some experts
[QUOTE]I've pinpointed the area where voltage takes a dramatic decrease. It's going to be hard to expain,but I'll try. Maybe an ASCII diagram will work! Ok, if you're looking at the red 4 gauge wire leading off of the battery, there is a big fuse about 1 ft from the original battery connection.
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now, looking at it, the Stage 3 punch has some pretty nice numbers associated with it (nicer than i remembered), but you should note that the W6 has about 40% more excursion. moving air (cone area and cone excursion) are not the only factors in a good sub, but they tell you a lot about potential output.
a xmax of 12 mm isn't outlandish, but keep in mind that the 10W3v2 w/ dual 2 ohm VC's has a higher Xmax of almost 14 mm, and the dual 4 ohm VC version has an almost 15 mm Xmax. you simply aren't gaining THAT much more output w/ this new sub. in fact, you may be going backwards.
a xmax of 12 mm isn't outlandish, but keep in mind that the 10W3v2 w/ dual 2 ohm VC's has a higher Xmax of almost 14 mm, and the dual 4 ohm VC version has an almost 15 mm Xmax. you simply aren't gaining THAT much more output w/ this new sub. in fact, you may be going backwards.
in fact, you may find that it's 'up to par' afterall - as you may have never been getting full power to the amp from day 1.
...even when it WAS running, chances are that it was not getting full power.John
PJK3, I never doubted you when you told me the fuse was bad, I was just going over what I've done and stating what the guys have told me. In fact, they never tested the fuse. I asked the guy and he said "Hmm, I thought Mike tested that..." Well, of course, it was the fuse. It wasn't making a good connection with other piece of the fuse container. He put a new one in and ta-da! The speaker sounds normal!
However, I think I'm going to take your advice, PJK3 and get a better AMP. The speaker sounds like I expect it to. I removed the spare completely and the little removable wall that covered up the spare and it sounds even better at that point.
I am still thinking about this amp for the sub:
http://iweb.alpine-usa.com/pls/admn/item_i...ain=10&p_more=y
It says 400w RMS at 2 Ohm and since my sub is dual 4 Ohm, currently it's wired in parallel, so that makes the amp think it's 2 Ohm, right? So this amp would push 400w RMS to the sub? If I get this amp, I still have enough money left over to get an amp for my front speakers as well.
I was thinking about getting the JL Audio 500/5, but the subwoofer output on that is only 250 as well... and, well, I want to do what you said and push more power to it. I'm sure it will sound even better at that point.
However, I think I'm going to take your advice, PJK3 and get a better AMP. The speaker sounds like I expect it to. I removed the spare completely and the little removable wall that covered up the spare and it sounds even better at that point.
I am still thinking about this amp for the sub:
http://iweb.alpine-usa.com/pls/admn/item_i...ain=10&p_more=y
It says 400w RMS at 2 Ohm and since my sub is dual 4 Ohm, currently it's wired in parallel, so that makes the amp think it's 2 Ohm, right? So this amp would push 400w RMS to the sub? If I get this amp, I still have enough money left over to get an amp for my front speakers as well.
I was thinking about getting the JL Audio 500/5, but the subwoofer output on that is only 250 as well... and, well, I want to do what you said and push more power to it. I'm sure it will sound even better at that point.
Originally Posted by deanjones,Aug 4 2005, 07:30 PM
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However, I think I'm going to take your advice, PJK3 and get a better AMP.
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However, I think I'm going to take your advice, PJK3 and get a better AMP.
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The least costly for your option is a good 2-ohm stable 4-channel amp, 2 channels to drive the front speakers, bridge the other two channels for the sub.
Originally Posted by TR-S2K,Aug 5 2005, 10:26 AM
Take his advices is the best bet you can make. He is da man
The least costly for your option is a good 2-ohm stable 4-channel amp, 2 channels to drive the front speakers, bridge the other two channels for the sub.
The least costly for your option is a good 2-ohm stable 4-channel amp, 2 channels to drive the front speakers, bridge the other two channels for the sub.
Boston Acoustics GT-42 is a good 4-channel amp. The list price is around $799, there is one on Ebay from a new seller with 0 feedback, if you can get this one for less than $400 and if this amp is what seller said, it would be a very good deal. It also cost you less to install one amp as oppose to 2 amps.
GT-42 specs:
Mixed Op. Power @ 4ohm, 2ohm (14.4VDC) 2x100W, 1x450W
I bought BA GT-24 mainly because PJK3 has BA GT-22 in his minivan, and he is recommending BA amp. I am very happy with my purchase of BA amp on Ebay.
GT-42 specs:
Mixed Op. Power @ 4ohm, 2ohm (14.4VDC) 2x100W, 1x450W
I bought BA GT-24 mainly because PJK3 has BA GT-22 in his minivan, and he is recommending BA amp. I am very happy with my purchase of BA amp on Ebay.
Originally Posted by TR-S2K,Aug 5 2005, 11:09 AM
Boston Acoustics GT-42 is a good 4-channel amp. The list price is around $799, there is one on Ebay from a new seller with 0 feedback, if you can get this one for less than $400 and if this amp is what seller said, it would be a very good deal. It also cost you less to install one amp as oppose to 2 amps.
GT-42 specs:
Mixed Op. Power @ 4ohm, 2ohm (14.4VDC) 2x100W, 1x450W
I bought BA GT-24 mainly because PJK3 has BA GT-22 in his minivan, and he is recommending BA amp. I am very happy with my purchase of BA amp on Ebay.
GT-42 specs:
Mixed Op. Power @ 4ohm, 2ohm (14.4VDC) 2x100W, 1x450W
I bought BA GT-24 mainly because PJK3 has BA GT-22 in his minivan, and he is recommending BA amp. I am very happy with my purchase of BA amp on Ebay.
A believe Alpine makes one....it is like $650, but if you are going to spend $450 on the Alpine 400W amp, and say another $300 on an amp for the cabin speakers, it saves you in the long run. The MRV-F545. 14.4V output is 125WRMS (channels 3/4...doesnt say if different for 1/2) in stereo, and 500WRMS bridged (3/4).
Only thing is the 500WRMS rating is at 4-ohms....dont think you can wire your sub for 4-ohms....only 2 and 8-ohm loads (i think). Problem will be finding a 4-channel that is stable enough to be bridged at 2-ohms impediance.
John
Only thing is the 500WRMS rating is at 4-ohms....dont think you can wire your sub for 4-ohms....only 2 and 8-ohm loads (i think). Problem will be finding a 4-channel that is stable enough to be bridged at 2-ohms impediance.
John


