New Alpine headunit and speakers . . Epilogue
Will I got the 305s and the Alpine SPR-17S installed. I'm a bit underwhelmed by the sound.
First let me talk about the install. The head unit and DCI went in effortlessly based on the photos I found in this forum. I did elongate the holes in the mounting bracket to set the head unit back about 1/8” so the door did not hit the knob on closing. The DCI went in with no problem.
I hooked up the extra wire for speed control as well. The ‘glovebox’ thingy was hard to remove but I had purchased a set of removal tools from Amazon to facilitate the install.
The speakers were a different story. I had no problem removing the door panels, again thanks to the photos posted on this site. The tweeters are perfect for the bracket already in place. I just put a thin thickness of duct tape between the new tweeter and the bracket as the Alpine tweeters are a little thinner than the factory junk. I was concerned that there was already a crossover since the stock tweeter and woofer were fed separately but the stock woofer is full range. Just extend, with a Honda adapter to the crossover.
The woofers were trial and error to get them to fit. The factory baskets don’t begin to fit. I ended up cutting spacer circles out of ¾” birch plywood and purchasing a couple of Glad storage containers from the grocery store for baskets. I silicone’d them to the plywood, drilled mounting holes for the speakers and installed. I had to put 4 thin washers behind the top 2 screws on each woofer as the Glad baskets were a little small to mount the speakers flush. I didn’t use any washers behind the bottom 2 screws.
After all was reassembled, I fired up and adjusted the head unit. The tweeters were really, really, really bright. So bright that I couldn’t adjust them back with treble control on the head unit. I pulled the door panels again and ended up at -12 db on the crossover to settle the treble down.
At the end of the day, here are my thoughts,
Pros – Price was good –about 500 from Modifry and Amazon. Good control of head unit thanks to DCI. Sound is OK at best. I have checked all inputs with good results. The Pandora connection works well with an itouch once a new Alpine Pandora App is installed. (we don’t have iphones here). I put a audiobook on a 4 gig usb stick and it played fine. I have my 60 gig ipod video in the car now and it works fine - - -a bit slow but fine.
Cons – Slow response from Ipod on startup….Ipod fault. Can’t see display on head unit in daylight with top down. Sound quality is OK at best.
Would I buy this set again……No. I think the speakers may be the weak link. I know I could have dynomatted the install and thrown more dollars at it but I’ve done these basic installs on a number of my cars/trucks over the years and have had better results. Maybe time will help as the speakers break in. I’ll let you know.
Mike
First let me talk about the install. The head unit and DCI went in effortlessly based on the photos I found in this forum. I did elongate the holes in the mounting bracket to set the head unit back about 1/8” so the door did not hit the knob on closing. The DCI went in with no problem.
I hooked up the extra wire for speed control as well. The ‘glovebox’ thingy was hard to remove but I had purchased a set of removal tools from Amazon to facilitate the install.
The speakers were a different story. I had no problem removing the door panels, again thanks to the photos posted on this site. The tweeters are perfect for the bracket already in place. I just put a thin thickness of duct tape between the new tweeter and the bracket as the Alpine tweeters are a little thinner than the factory junk. I was concerned that there was already a crossover since the stock tweeter and woofer were fed separately but the stock woofer is full range. Just extend, with a Honda adapter to the crossover.
The woofers were trial and error to get them to fit. The factory baskets don’t begin to fit. I ended up cutting spacer circles out of ¾” birch plywood and purchasing a couple of Glad storage containers from the grocery store for baskets. I silicone’d them to the plywood, drilled mounting holes for the speakers and installed. I had to put 4 thin washers behind the top 2 screws on each woofer as the Glad baskets were a little small to mount the speakers flush. I didn’t use any washers behind the bottom 2 screws.
After all was reassembled, I fired up and adjusted the head unit. The tweeters were really, really, really bright. So bright that I couldn’t adjust them back with treble control on the head unit. I pulled the door panels again and ended up at -12 db on the crossover to settle the treble down.
At the end of the day, here are my thoughts,
Pros – Price was good –about 500 from Modifry and Amazon. Good control of head unit thanks to DCI. Sound is OK at best. I have checked all inputs with good results. The Pandora connection works well with an itouch once a new Alpine Pandora App is installed. (we don’t have iphones here). I put a audiobook on a 4 gig usb stick and it played fine. I have my 60 gig ipod video in the car now and it works fine - - -a bit slow but fine.
Cons – Slow response from Ipod on startup….Ipod fault. Can’t see display on head unit in daylight with top down. Sound quality is OK at best.
Would I buy this set again……No. I think the speakers may be the weak link. I know I could have dynomatted the install and thrown more dollars at it but I’ve done these basic installs on a number of my cars/trucks over the years and have had better results. Maybe time will help as the speakers break in. I’ll let you know.
Mike
Are you powering the Alpine SPR-17S straight off the head unit? If so, I'd guess that's your problem. Those speakers are rated 110W RMS if I looked up the specs correctly, and I think the head unit is only 18W RMS or so.
I'm using the i305 with the Alpine KTP-445 Power Pak (45W RMS), JL TR650-CSi components rated at 50W RMS, and couldn't be happier considering the budget setup. The sound quality is there, but of course lacks the low end volume of a proper sub. It still gets down to the semi-low frequencies, say to roughly 60hz really damn well, but the dB isn't there. Can't expect much out of a 6.5" woofer
I'm using the i305 with the Alpine KTP-445 Power Pak (45W RMS), JL TR650-CSi components rated at 50W RMS, and couldn't be happier considering the budget setup. The sound quality is there, but of course lacks the low end volume of a proper sub. It still gets down to the semi-low frequencies, say to roughly 60hz really damn well, but the dB isn't there. Can't expect much out of a 6.5" woofer
Originally Posted by Reckon,Jul 7 2010, 06:56 AM
Yeah, the Type R speakers without an amp are a waste. Even with the KTP power pack he would be better off with a full amp to get the max out of the speakers.
Doors will probably need a lot of work with that much power. I have to quell some door panel rattles with only 30-35W RMS.
^^Agreed. A little dynamat goes a long way. I haven't had issues with my setup yet but I may still dynamat down the road. I plan on upgrading to a full amp and sub set up after warranty runs out (CPO and extended).
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post






