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Old Feb 12, 2004 | 12:48 AM
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That place is 100% legit. Ive used them many times, and happy as a bug. Everything is brand new and sealed. The Davinci comes in a cherry stained wood crate and white gloves for handling......
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Old Feb 12, 2004 | 06:54 AM
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wow.... clearly you're spending some dough..

i didn't realize you were going quite where you are now...

still, imo one of the sweetest sounding amplifiers i've ever heard for car audio (making it clear that i've not ever heard the DaVinci) is an Audison. (they don't have an Italian name, but instead are made in Italy... ) if i were spending big bucks on a serious system, this would be one of the top few i would check out for amps... i don't know what you're planning to spend, as i suspect the Audison's pricing might shock a bit -- but they are some very classic amps w/ excellent sound quality. their whole site is flash based, so i can't direct link you in to models, but i'd suggest checking out the Vrx 6.420. in 5 channel mode it will get you 75 Wrms x 4 to your highs, and 500 Wrms to your sub (@ 12V). i know it's not the highest powered option or the kilowatt for the sub you might otherwise be looking at, but....
it also offers lots of addon options like various remote gain controls, balanced inputs, thermally controlled active cooling, phase controls, parametric eqs, crossovers, subsonic filters, etc.
Vrx 4.620 (9.4" x 2.5" x 22.5")

and if you really want to toast the town... you can go w/ the EX line which includes all the modules and you get the dark chromed casing w/ inlaid wood panels.

or, if you wanted more power - you could match up a Vrx 1.500 and a 4.300 and run 110 Wrms x 4 to your highs and 1080 Wrms x 1 to your sub... (@ 12V)
Vrx 4.300 (9.4" x 2.5" x 19.6")

Vrx 1.500 (9.4" x 2.5" x 17")


i will admit this much though... i have only seen dealer costs for these units, and the two suggestions i just made will probably cost you over $1500 for either setup... possibly even into the $2k range. (and that doesn't include the extra bucks required for the EX line...)


if you wanted to consider a more cost effective set of Audison amps, you could also check out the Lrx 1.400 and Lrx 4.300. they are a bit smaller, and are lower powered in nature as well, but these are quite good sounding as well... here's some linkage directly to a table outlining them...


these could probably ring in for a bit over a grand total.
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Old Feb 12, 2004 | 07:59 AM
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Thanks guys for the suggestions thus far. I have one concern with the DaVinci amp, and that is that it doesn't produce enough WRMS for the subwoofer I have purchased. I don't know if they're underrated on the power or what, but I really don't know if I'd feel comfortable underpowering my sub.

Are there downsides to doing it?

And I've looked at the Audison too. Nice looking amps.

My main reason for going all out with this setup is because an S2000 is a dream car of mine to own, and I've never had a really good system in a car before, so I want to do the best I can in that department as well.

Thanks for the help so far guys.
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Old Feb 12, 2004 | 11:30 AM
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2 Things......

First of all, Audison kicks ass. Definetely give them a look....and def the chrome BLING BLING BLING!!!


Second....remember, the Davinci and The audison produce more power than your car will handle.

Your electrical system wont be able to handle any more. If you have 100 going to each speaker, and 500 going to the sub, first of all, thats really really really loud. Second, thats 900 watts of drain on the stock alternator.

So lets get technical for one seconds. The stock Honda alternator is 110A. There is approximately 44A available for a system or any other electronic doo daas that you may have.( adding things like neons, PDAs, car charger accessories, radars, etc, drop that number)

Even though it can do more, Let us say you will be doing 100W per channel for the speakers, and 500 good clean RMS for the subwoofer. In your case, that is a grand total of 900 watts. Still with me??? Good.

Now lets find the peak current draw of the DaVinci.....900*2=1800 .....1800/13.8 (average car volatage) = 130.434 This is the peak amperes that your system is drawing. Obviously your car cannot supply that, but this is a peak number, so we need to find the "continuous" ampere draw.

Now, since the average music signal requires about a 1/3rd of the average power in a test tone.....We divide the peak draw by 3......130.434/3=43.478

So your system is drawing 43A when the car can supply 44A. 1A is just a few watts, so no need to fret.

So as you see here, 900watts RMS is a very large number. My car is loud and clean as hell, you can hear ir from 2 blocks away.....but its only 600 watts running at half capacity. You really are not understanding what 900 wrms really is. In an s2000, 900wrms is insanely loud, and with the right equipment, will sound like a concert hall. Another thing, since the s2000 has a softop and plastic parts and all that, including a thin trunk lid.....anything more than 500 or so watts to a sub will rattle the crap out of your car. So, what do you think???

(P.S. unless you get a new alternator from like a ford f150 heavy duty, rewinding your stock alternator usually nets about 15-20A, which would buy you another 300 or so watts....)
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Old Feb 12, 2004 | 11:47 AM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by NFRs2000NYC
2 Things......

First of all, Audison kicks ass.
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Old Feb 12, 2004 | 11:58 AM
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Not at all. My sub is running about about 30%....as I hate bass that sets off car alarms. Subs have a minimum rating and a max rating. My sub is 75-300 rms . There is no need to push the sub hard. Remember, you are not setting the gains to 100% either.

The amplifier outputs 1300rms. That is an insane amount of power. Just for clarification......Have you ever been to an Imax theater???? remember the sound?? That is 5800wrms. you have a little less than a 1/4 of that coming out of a two seat roadster.....You have more power than you will ever imagine.
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Old Feb 12, 2004 | 11:59 AM
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And remember.....if you wanted to....you can run....

100wrmsx4 for the focals......
400x2wrms for the sub......


is 800 watts for the sub not enough?????
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Old Feb 12, 2004 | 11:59 AM
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it's 1000wrms
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Old Feb 12, 2004 | 12:03 PM
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You cannot run 1000wrms sub in an s2000. You will start to have mechanical problems with your top with that kind of output.

Trust me.....a nice clean 400-600 for daily listening......(300 is too loud for me )

And if you go to a show, put it up to 800. Im sure others will back me on this too. Do not aim for 1000 for the sub. NO NEED!!!!!
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Old Feb 12, 2004 | 12:06 PM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by NFRs2000NYC
You cannot run 1000wrms sub in an s2000.
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