i figure just incase i wanna add something on, i dont have to get a new amp. or i can get 5 amps total and one for each speaker (including sub) bujt i need the trunk room

 

I see, that amp is not a true 6-channel amp. It behaves more like a 50 wRMS x 4 amp at 4 ohm. For that price you may want to check out the Phoenix Gold Xenon X100.4. I think it'll have a bit cleaner sound and is a current model.

http://www.onlinecarstereo.com/CarAudio/Pr...ProductID=14135

# RMS Power @ 4 Ohms: 100W x 4 @ 14.4V
# Bridged RMS Power @ 4 Ohms: 200W x 2 @ 14.4V

That way you can run 100 watts RMS to the doors and bridge the other two channels to a subwoofer or get a sub amp and run 100 watts to S-Pod speakers.

 

so i would want to set it on the 200watt since i will only have 2 speakers. right? and if i'm reading it rigth the speakers handle 300 right?

 

ok -- this is way late in the thread -- but i've just got to comment.


that head unit? $600?


OMG!



jeez, this guy must be selling snakeoil on the side if he's getting that price.

dude, it's last years model, and even Crutchfield never sold it for more than $450 iirc. heck, this years model the CDA-9855 is $450, and it's got some upgrades.

regarding the rest of it -- so far, this thread is full of great suggestions.

while the 9835 does offer you the head unit power (v-drive) you're not using, i actually like the display and am really fond of all the tuning options it offers. if Jim ever sells his, he just now promised me he'll give me dibs... (j/k Jim... )
either or -- if you're not going to miss the 9835's features that are different from the one Dave selected, then go w/ Dave's. in the end though, look at both side by side, and see what you will and will not want... then make your choice. sometimes to get the things you want, you have to buy things you don't need.

i also liked the eclipse offerings for components, but if you can get the Focal 165 KP's for $400, it's a far better speaker than the Eclipse components.
either or -- whenever you think to yourself, well i could spend a bit more here vs there... lean towards your speakers. they are what actually converts all the electronics to the sound you hear. great speakers + mediocre electronics = good sound. mediocre speakers + great electronics = mediocre sound.
if at all possible -- listen to speakers before you buy. they are very subjective and personal... trust me - Dave and Flitcroft's speakers are speakers i'd be very unlikely to buy... and the Focals i have are probably pretty low on their list. not because they are bad... heck, all of them are high quality gear. but because they don't appeal to us as individuals.
like Willie said. knukonceptz.com

regarding the focals power rating being listed as nominal -- actually Watts RMS is a misnomer. power isn't RMS, voltage is. nominal is 100% the correct terminology... only thing is? no one uses it... everyone uses Wrms. so, for all practical purposes nominal wattage is the same as Wrms for side to side comparisons.


also, it looks like you've got a bit of confusion regarding amps... what do you want to do at the end of the day? Spods? sub?
that will affect what amp you choose, as will the front speakers you choose.

 

what iw as thinking was usign an amp for upfront, and i was thinking about spods, and do a seperate amp for the sub if i decide to add one on.

 

now the only thing though with the amp, if i run at 200RMS constaintly for each speaker on 400w amp wount i get distortion?

 

*nods*

chances are, you won't need nearly the power for the S-pods that you're going to need for the fronts... they're right behind your head, and will blow you away.

given what you're already doing, i'd plan for a sub in the long run. rarely does anyone do this much, and not throw in some sort of sub by the end...

get a solid 4 channel amp that will have the power to run a sub. plan to use it for S-pods in the short term (most likely dialed down a bit), and then when sub time comes, consider a cheapish 2 channel amp you can hide for the S-pods and move the sub to the main amp.

if you can find a 4 channel amp that is 2 ohm stable when mono-bridged, it will increase your options for subs in the long run. it isn't a must, but it helps. either or, i would plan for around 100 Wrms per up front, and around 300 to 500 Wrms mono bridged to a sub.

so, something that's 100 Wrms x 4 @ 4 ohms and 4 ohm stable mono bridged making 400 Wrms @ 4 ohms would be a good score. 2 ohm stable mono would be bonus.


regarding the other question you posted, while i was posting this.... i'm not sure what you mean.

 

oh, also -- in my opinion....

order of importance and purchase:
fronts/door speakers (very nice)
sub (good to very nice)
S-pods (moderate to good)

others will have their own opinion.


and again - 100Wrms is just a general point.... a bit more or less to better match a particular speaker would still be good.

 

i really need to thank all of you for you help, i totaly apreshiate this, and not getting screwed over by this shop.


so basicaly what i am looking for would be:

Headunit: Alpine- Cda 9855
Front: Pheonix gold Ticom6 Eleite or the Focals
Amp: Pheonix gold Xenon 200.2
Back: Spods runing on a low 2 chanel Amp
Sub: Running on about 400wrms brided
?

or should i dumb down that amp for the front so its not running at full capasity all the time. like ajust it so its onlying doing at liek 150ish or something like that, or should i go with something a bit bigger?

 

Take my word for it.....and everyone else....forget the SPODS. A sub is MUCH more important for the quality of sound than the spods. With good speakers, and 100wrms going to them, I highly doubt youll want SPODS anyway. Make that your LAST purchase. As for the Xenon amp, Id get either 2 of those, or a 400.4 This way youll be able to power your speakers and sub with one amp.