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Old Oct 4, 2002 | 05:04 PM
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Default Wiring Dual Voice Coil Subs. Need advice now.

Ok guys I need help real quick, my parents are out of town which means that I have their car so I can tear down the S for the new and improved fiberglass box, well I started and got everything hooked up and then Brap Brap Brap over and over again comming out of my subs.

Equipment wise I have two kicker c10vr's in a sealed box, they are 4 ohm model. They are being driven by a 160a2 punch amp (which I think is to small).

Well anyway I was trying to wire them to get a 4 ohm final, so I did something like this



Well all I get is brap brap brap at almost any level gain wise and with no "Punch boost".

So I wire a single for 2 ohm use to see what happens. Lots of sound no clarity and at anything above normal levels I simply get a brap brap sound. The clairity issue is simply because I am running at 2 ohm I believe.

I also ran the wires for ~8 ohm with on hooked up and I get the faintest wisper of noise at full gain and puch and stereo.

Now I was running my smaller 8's in parallel with this amp at 4ohm (single coil) and they sounded just fine but a little on the lower sound scale wise. So I think the amp has the power to run the subs (but not anything close to max)

Any clue as to what is going on, it's the amp not being able to power these guys, or that I have wired my subs in the wrong way.

Now on a side, the kickers have a initail and secondary voice coil I believe, one of the positives has a dot and the other is clear red. In parallel wiring the power comes to the post with the dot so I figure thats initial.

This was rushed my grammer sucks I know but I need help like right now
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Old Oct 4, 2002 | 05:30 PM
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Neve mind found out with a little search.

stereo or bridged mono output
Tri-Way capable
37.5 watts RMS x 2 at 4 ohms
75 watts RMS x 2 at 2 ohms
150 watts RMS x 1 at 4 ohms in bridged mode
MOSFET power supply and output devices
80 Hz low-pass/120 Hz high-pass crossover, 12 dB/octave

37.5 watts at 4 ohms about 16 watts at 8 ohms not enough power to run the subs by a long shot. Heck I tried the 1 sub at 150 watt and it still wants more, got to get new amps this weekend,

Can't believe that I am running my Q series at ~ 37.5 watts as well.

So I need a new amp anybody got a suggestion, would like a 4-5 channel with at least 150 watts at 4 ohms if possible.
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Old Oct 4, 2002 | 08:38 PM
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Install it like this to get a total 4 ohm load to your bridged amp. You will be getting the 150W power spec'd by the amp. Remeber though it is only 75 per sub.

Get a Rockford 300S - 2x75 at 4 ohms and 2x150 at 2 ohms - 300W bridged to 4 ohms.
I can get it for you for about $250 shipped

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Old Oct 4, 2002 | 08:47 PM
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Thanks I will try that tommorow. I rigged it up similar to this tonight, I am running 4 ohm total but it not the most efficent wiring scheme.

As for the 300S. I have Qsd216's in the doors depending now but might go back to the Rsd216's that I have in my 914 if I can't get a nice 5 channel amps. I really need to run a much nicer (watt wise) signal to the Q's to have them perform above the Rsd's.

Any suggestion on a very clean powerful 5 channel, if not another amp that might be more suted to driving high end door speakers.
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Old Oct 4, 2002 | 10:48 PM
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JL Audio has the 500/5 - there are many very happy owners of that amp on this board.

Precision Power has the PCX-5800 - 4x50W + 1x200W at 4 ohms (4x100 + 1x400W into 2 ohms)

Rockford has the Power 600.5 4x50W @ 4ohms + 1x200 @ 2ohms

of course you could always run 2 amps - 1 or 2 channel for the subs and a 4 channel for the other speakers. Do you have rear speakers?

PM me if you want a price on the PPI or Rockford amps
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Old Oct 5, 2002 | 04:08 AM
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I have the JL 500/5 and am very pleased with the performance of the unit. Highly recommend it
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Old Oct 5, 2002 | 08:02 AM
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Thanks I will look into that unit. I love the PPI stuff, had a ~400 (480?) that got stolen a while back that never died.

No I don't have rear speakers but they don't make a 3 channel amp setup. I could do this though, get another sub amp and run the door speakers on ther own amp so I could bridge the amp and run 4 ohm at 75 watts to the RSD's. I already have enough room on my power disribution box and it would save me some headaches. But I don't think that I can bridge the amp to run door speakers.

Well I will have to think about it. I will look into the PPI, but what would be best. 2x100W (by bridging the door speakers.) + 1x200W at 4 ohms for the Subs. WOuld sound rather clear I would imagine.
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Old Oct 5, 2002 | 01:46 PM
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If you want high end - I can get you the Xtant X603 3-channel amp

Number of Channels 3
Watts per Channel 4 Ohm 2 x 75 + 1 x 150
Watts per Channel 2 Ohm 2 x 150 + 1 x 300

Xtant X603


Or you could go with a 4 channel such as the Rockford Power 550X and bridge the rears for your subs

65W X 4 @ 4 Ohms
137.5W X 4 @ 2 Ohms
275W X 2 @ 4 Ohms Bridged

Put 65 Watts to each door and 275W @ 4ohms to your subs

There is no need to go with a 5 channel amp for your setup.
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