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Old Aug 4, 2009 | 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by combats2000,Aug 5 2009, 12:05 AM
LOL u mad?
haha ya, I want an AEM but neeeed OBD2!
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Old Aug 4, 2009 | 09:29 PM
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I love this. AEM improve their ECU.... but not enough for some people.

Guys, save your hate for your state government and it's inane rules not for a vendor that is producing great products that don't happen to comply with them.
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Old Aug 4, 2009 | 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by AusS2000,Aug 5 2009, 12:29 AM
I love this. AEM improve their ECU.... but not enough for some people.

Guys, save your hate for your state government and it's inane rules not for a vendor that is producing great products that don't happen to comply with them.
We have enough hate for both!
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Old Aug 4, 2009 | 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Kyushin,Aug 5 2009, 03:44 PM
We have enough hate for both!
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Old Aug 4, 2009 | 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by averageJoe,Aug 5 2009, 11:32 AM
Now think of the brains (computer) controlling all emission/fueling functions trying to get that CARB certification. I know OBD is not CARB, but if you cant get past a CARB review board, you wont get OBD compliance from the feds. It would be even more difficult to get federal certifiction of a OBD compliant device than CARB.
Hmmm, good point. If OBDII compliance is a legal thing and anything like CARB compliance then it is more than just doing the work to make it look like it is giving out the right info.

And you can't ask a manufacturer to do the technical side so it passes 'Plug in and test' without going through the whole compliance thing. That would be commercial fraud.

Of course if you start with an OEM ECU and modify.... Hondata. But then you have other limitations.
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Old Aug 5, 2009 | 04:00 AM
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According to the US Bureau of Transit Statistics for 2006 there are 250,851,833 registered passenger vehicles in the US. Out of these roughly 251 million vehicles, 135,399,945 were classified as automobiles, while 99,124,775 were classified as "Other 2 axle, 4 tire vehicles," presumably SUVs and pick-up trucks. Yet another 6,649,337 were classified as vehicles with 2 axles and 6 tires and 2,169,670 were classified as "Truck, combination."

Can't find an exact #, but theres around 600m cars in the world today. That puts the US at 40% of the total cars in the world.

In 1996 OBD-II specification is made mandatory for all cars sold in the United States.

In 2001 the European Union makes EOBD mandatory for all petrol vehicles sold in the European Union; EOBD is a version of OBD-II required in for diesel and gas vehicles.


So yeah, the MAJORITY of the cars in the world require OBDII or a similiar verson. So to say its a small percentage, thats just asinine
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Old Aug 5, 2009 | 04:04 AM
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Lastly, I would venture to guess AEM, which is based out of CA, is selling AT LEAST 90% of their units to customers IN THE US!!!

WHICH REQUIRES OBDII!!!!
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Old Aug 5, 2009 | 05:59 AM
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Originally Posted by ksdaoski,Aug 5 2009, 08:04 AM
Lastly, I would venture to guess AEM, which is based out of CA, is selling AT LEAST 90% of their units to customers IN THE US!!!

WHICH REQUIRES OBDII!!!!
dont need obd2 for the track. i think they just say its offroad/track only and call it a day.

if you want there product, you will find a way to make it work. IE swap to stock for that time of the year, get a friend to pass u, etc etc.

is it an inconveince, yes, but do they care, obviously not.
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Old Aug 5, 2009 | 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by ksdaoski,Aug 5 2009, 10:00 PM
So yeah, the MAJORITY of the cars in the world require OBDII or a similiar verson. So to say its a small percentage, thats just asinine
When sold.

Your car has OBDII when sold.

But the fact is, the number that need it to stay registered is a lot lower.
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Old Aug 5, 2009 | 07:48 AM
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hondata might pass a plug in obd2 inspection, but they are still illegal for use just like aem.

I believe they told us at the seminar for kpro that if you happened to run into an inspection station at the track the kpro would "pass" but they are still for off-road use only.
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