AEM Series 2 ems!
I love this. AEM improve their ECU.... but not enough for some people.
Guys, save your hate for your state government and it's inane rules not for a vendor that is producing great products that don't happen to comply with them.
Guys, save your hate for your state government and it's inane rules not for a vendor that is producing great products that don't happen to comply with them.
Originally Posted by AusS2000,Aug 5 2009, 12:29 AM
I love this. AEM improve their ECU.... but not enough for some people.
Guys, save your hate for your state government and it's inane rules not for a vendor that is producing great products that don't happen to comply with them.
Guys, save your hate for your state government and it's inane rules not for a vendor that is producing great products that don't happen to comply with them.
Originally Posted by averageJoe,Aug 5 2009, 11:32 AM
Now think of the brains (computer) controlling all emission/fueling functions trying to get that CARB certification. I know OBD is not CARB, but if you cant get past a CARB review board, you wont get OBD compliance from the feds. It would be even more difficult to get federal certifiction of a OBD compliant device than CARB.
And you can't ask a manufacturer to do the technical side so it passes 'Plug in and test' without going through the whole compliance thing. That would be commercial fraud.
Of course if you start with an OEM ECU and modify.... Hondata. But then you have other limitations.
According to the US Bureau of Transit Statistics for 2006 there are 250,851,833 registered passenger vehicles in the US. Out of these roughly 251 million vehicles, 135,399,945 were classified as automobiles, while 99,124,775 were classified as "Other 2 axle, 4 tire vehicles," presumably SUVs and pick-up trucks. Yet another 6,649,337 were classified as vehicles with 2 axles and 6 tires and 2,169,670 were classified as "Truck, combination."
Can't find an exact #, but theres around 600m cars in the world today. That puts the US at 40% of the total cars in the world.
In 1996 OBD-II specification is made mandatory for all cars sold in the United States.
In 2001 the European Union makes EOBD mandatory for all petrol vehicles sold in the European Union; EOBD is a version of OBD-II required in for diesel and gas vehicles.
So yeah, the MAJORITY of the cars in the world require OBDII or a similiar verson. So to say its a small percentage, thats just asinine
Can't find an exact #, but theres around 600m cars in the world today. That puts the US at 40% of the total cars in the world.
In 1996 OBD-II specification is made mandatory for all cars sold in the United States.
In 2001 the European Union makes EOBD mandatory for all petrol vehicles sold in the European Union; EOBD is a version of OBD-II required in for diesel and gas vehicles.
So yeah, the MAJORITY of the cars in the world require OBDII or a similiar verson. So to say its a small percentage, thats just asinine
Originally Posted by ksdaoski,Aug 5 2009, 08:04 AM
Lastly, I would venture to guess AEM, which is based out of CA, is selling AT LEAST 90% of their units to customers IN THE US!!!
WHICH REQUIRES OBDII!!!!
WHICH REQUIRES OBDII!!!!
if you want there product, you will find a way to make it work. IE swap to stock for that time of the year, get a friend to pass u, etc etc.
is it an inconveince, yes, but do they care, obviously not.
Originally Posted by ksdaoski,Aug 5 2009, 10:00 PM
So yeah, the MAJORITY of the cars in the world require OBDII or a similiar verson. So to say its a small percentage, thats just asinine
Your car has OBDII when sold.
But the fact is, the number that need it to stay registered is a lot lower.
hondata might pass a plug in obd2 inspection, but they are still illegal for use just like aem.
I believe they told us at the seminar for kpro that if you happened to run into an inspection station at the track the kpro would "pass" but they are still for off-road use only.
I believe they told us at the seminar for kpro that if you happened to run into an inspection station at the track the kpro would "pass" but they are still for off-road use only.




