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Old Feb 4, 2010 | 11:27 AM
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I have always heard that running a 2 step on the stock valvetrain is a big no no with our heads. OOne person stating this was Jon Le from IP.
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Old Feb 4, 2010 | 12:48 PM
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^^^I don't buy that. I would agree that getting on the two-step without the rockers locked (VTEC) engaged, is a big no-no. I'm pretty sure that's what he meant? Ya and I had this conversation during the summer when I was at there shop picking up my head.
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Old Feb 4, 2010 | 06:23 PM
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You may be right on that. I just remember talking to Jon Le and he asking, at the time I was still on the stock valvetrain, if I was running any type of 2 step and I said no. He said good because its very hard on the stock valvetrain. Thats all the discussion we had on it and I assumed he meant to just completely stay away from the 2 step if I had the stock valvetrain.
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Old Feb 4, 2010 | 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by boostedf22c,Feb 4 2010, 05:48 PM
^^^I don't buy that. I would agree that getting on the two-step without the rockers locked (VTEC) engaged, is a big no-no. I'm pretty sure that's what he meant? Ya and I had this conversation during the summer when I was at there shop picking up my head.
Can you speak more to this point? I'm very interested to hear the tech behind this.

Not asking to start a pissing match at all...want to get this info out for everyone's situational awareness
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Old Feb 4, 2010 | 08:38 PM
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As far as why to have VTEC engaged while on the 2-step???
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Old Feb 4, 2010 | 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by boostedf22c,Feb 4 2010, 09:38 PM
As far as why to have VTEC engaged while on the 2-step???
Thats a start.

Interested as well, I was unaware of that.
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Old Feb 5, 2010 | 02:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Evans Tuning,Feb 4 2010, 05:55 AM
I am bit surprised that people are having issues with the stock valves warping under heat. Are you guys drag racing (i.e 2 step and anti-lag) or street driving/highway pull type of driving? I have only had issues with the exhaust valves warping on our drag car with heavy amount of anti-lag/2 step. We'd get about 15-20 passes before I was seeing 60-75% leakdown out of the exhaust valves, but the car would run the same mph at the track regardless. High rpm seemed to seal them up just find under 30-40 psi, the trap speeds back up that idea as well. I know the Ecotec engines in the Pro Cobalts had similar experiences as well after a few passes (60 psi+), but ran good mph trap speeds.
I just do highway pulls. I'm not much of a racing person. I've had my license suspended more times than I can count due to medical reasons. Driving is a privilege to me. I just enjoy the spirited drive. The problem I had was the charge pipe kept coming loose and throwing the tune off. That caused my detonation issues...
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Old Feb 5, 2010 | 02:23 AM
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Originally Posted by dsddcd,Jan 30 2010, 08:12 PM
I was only running the Greddy kit with concervative timing and all mine warped.
I've got greddy e-manage blue.. With this whole rebuild i can't afford a AEM atm.
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Old Feb 5, 2010 | 02:27 AM
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Originally Posted by boostedf22c,Feb 4 2010, 07:52 AM
Just hope the worse doesn't happen and wipe out your entire motor. I got VERY lucky when my valves broke. VERY.

Typically it's catastrophic when that happens.

You also want to make sure that your VTEC is locked in while on the two step. This can cause some serious issues too if overlooked.
I fried my rings and piston started rubbing up against the sleeves. Yea its expensive to replace. I guess do it right the first time.
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Old Feb 5, 2010 | 04:28 AM
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Originally Posted by siadam,Feb 5 2010, 02:27 AM
Thats a start.

Interested as well, I was unaware of that.
Well, I haven't personally seen this happen (Inline has), but when you are on the 2-step it can get rather violent. And when the rockers aren't locked, the center rocker will tend to get out of control. I know the loss motion assembly is supposed to keep it in control, which is does under normal conditions. However, what can happen is that rocker can actually come in contact with the retainer. Over time that can cause fatigue and even pop the retainer off the valve.
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