He was just making the point that if you aren't really pushing the car, being faster than an NA being indicative of doing so, then the data isn't relevant. If the car isn't being taken to the limits, i.e. as hot as possible then comments like "my car is fine on track" are really opinions with no real empirical evidence.

I guess the most relevant information we can post here are logs with temps, throttle, boost, etc along with setups? Then we can have exact statements of "yes, this will work with x/y" or "you really need z to track". The data doesn't lie.

 

Why are you being argumentative! People here were saying Metros was clearly taking it easy. Not everyone has the skills to go flat out or want to. Novices can track their car safely without all the fancy vmount setup.

You probably think all my heat shielding is a waste of time as well huh.

 

I have lots of logs with coolant temps, oil temps, oil pressure, fuel pressure,fuel temp etc so have lots of data to back my claims up.

Here is my build thread https://www.s2ki.com/s2000/topic/941...ith-added-nos/

 

It was a bit of making fun. At that track, it's generally the "fast" cars that go slow. As to what has already been pointed out, you can't make a blanket statement on a car doing "just fine" at the track if you're not actually testing the capability of the cooling setup. It's fine if you're slow, but for the guys that might actually want to go fast with some positive pressure on the intake and who are decent drivers, they won't find any help in statements such as that.


Why would I think heat shielding is a waste of time? Heat management is HUGE in keeping a car alive when you're pushing it and I am clearly advocating for it here.

 

Go to the racing and competIon forum. That's a thread about turbos and track that is many many pages long. Almost every single person failed at tracking there turbo s2000. The few that can all have v mount setups.

Drive your fmic turbo s2000 hard on the street/canyons/auto cross does not me shit when compared to 20mins of open lapping at wot on a track.

 

Yep. i've said it 3 times already.....V-mount. or No mount for a turbo track car. Haha.

 

Track only cars? Says who? I love the "club racer" mentality where you drive it to the track and drive it home w/ a/c. I think it's quite possible to do with a well thought out setup, it's just that many people don't change their mindset with a track car vs. a drag car/highway monster, and end up having big problems after a few laps.

People that've seen my car would hardly call it a "track only" car as I drive it a lot on the street and still have the stock seats w/ heated seats I installed (they are just too nice in the fall/winter ) and a nice stereo, I just enjoy pushing it on track. If you aren't pushing it on track, that's a-ok and nothing wrong with it, but you have to draw the line somewhere. If an N/A s2k does a regular lap in 2 mins even, and you're running laps in 4 mins even with a half sized radiator with a WOT blast down the main straight only, they're technically "tracking" also.

 

Son of a bitch stop arguing. No one gives a shit. This is a 98% track car. I don't have much track time and my lady doesn't have any. We both plan to learn and run the piss out of this car. ON THE TRACK. you cannot compare your street build. I have my own street build with a fmic and yes it gets hot. The point of this thread was about coolant properties and air flow for a vmount.

 

There seems to being a addiction with a vmount being the only way, I will say again that is not true. If you run a fullblown or mishimoto rad it will over heat as they are crap. I use to have a fullblown rad and it would over heat on the road. You can get fmic which are stretched to allow more air through this is common practice over here.

Someone said they would prefer front end lift to destroying a engine, I would prefer the engine run 5c hotter than the car going light at the front which could lead to you going into a barrier which could have serious affects on your health!!

 

Haha touche, but all I'd need to do is compensate w/ my "mAd SkillZ" and I'd be a-ok. There are clearly many ways to skin a cat. I'm not sure what kind of times you run, but the SOS race car utilized a V mount setup and ran some pretty quick times last I heard, so clearly the lift created is manageable.