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Old Apr 12, 2013 | 09:55 AM
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I just don't understand man... I have the same exact setup as you basically... same AP1 Comptech RRFPR, stock injectors, Walbro 255 pump... but I am in the 12's at WOT in VTEC. And I even have my Apexi set to remove some fuel at the top end to keep the AFR curve from dropping down too rich. Something still has to be up with your setup. I am running PLM header, test pipe, and OEM catback.
He has a more efficient breathing single exhaust. When your relying purely on fuel pressure, not injector duty, to supply the fuel, small efficiency changes makes big differences when riding the cusp like this.

That is excatly what i think is apening. That 3" single must have to much flow. How many hp you think you got coolguy ??

I know i had 297 whp running lean and loosing 1 psi after 8k. Im pretty sure i was aming for ~ 310whp. That would be ~ 30whp more then CT spec.

Probably with the cat i will loose enought for the fuel to keep up
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Old Apr 12, 2013 | 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Sylvain2000
Your right.

I just figured out that the apexi can only trick the air input volatge. I guess at wot there is nothing good about telling the ecu it as less air then it actualy has.

So the only Way to add fuel delivered to the combustion chamber is by adding some injector duty. I wonder was is the easiest way to achive that without having to go nuts with tuning.

I will defenitly try the cat
There is no way to effectively add injector duty without some form of engine management, also when you do on stock injectors which are already screaming from higher then nominal pressure, adding injector duty on top of it makes them rebel, not delivering consistent performance, so naturally if you have an EMS of sorts to add duty, you would want to go ahead and get larger after market injectors. You my friend are at the limit of what your system can support, let’s hope the cat does enough.
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Old Apr 12, 2013 | 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Sylvain2000
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[quote name='CoolGuy094' timestamp='1365783433' post='22469629']
I just don't understand man... I have the same exact setup as you basically... same AP1 Comptech RRFPR, stock injectors, Walbro 255 pump... but I am in the 12's at WOT in VTEC. And I even have my Apexi set to remove some fuel at the top end to keep the AFR curve from dropping down too rich. Something still has to be up with your setup. I am running PLM header, test pipe, and OEM catback.
He has a more efficient breathing single exhaust. When your relying purely on fuel pressure, not injector duty, to supply the fuel, small efficiency changes makes big differences when riding the cusp like this.

That is excatly what i think is apening. That 3" single must have to much flow. How many hp you think you got coolguy ??

I know i had 297 whp running lean and loosing 1 psi after 8k. Im pretty sure i was aming for ~ 310whp. That would be ~ 30whp more then CT spec.

Probably with the cat i will loose enought for the fuel to keep up
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Makes sense, the stock injectors I have found cap off right about 300whp Dynojet give or take a few. When you consider thats 100whp over stock, thats pretty darn good for 360cc injectors. They are screaming.
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Old Apr 12, 2013 | 11:50 AM
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I made 296 HP on a Mustang Dyno. I'm probably flirting with that line myself, but having the OEM catback exhaust must be helping me stay on the slightly more friendly side of the line.
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Old Apr 12, 2013 | 12:40 PM
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You maybe suffering from voltage drop on the fuel pump thus it can't supply enough juice - if the car is old then even more so (IIRC the wires are quite thin), i had a similar issues (running lean) I ran wires with a relay from the battery to the fuel pump and it solved my issues, if your not getting enough juice it wont be able to cope and deliver enough fuel.

I ran about 100psi at idle for around 6 months until i decided it was stupid and got 650cc injectors.

You can measure voltage at the battery and fuel pump they should more or less tally up.

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Old Apr 13, 2013 | 06:18 PM
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Wiring and relay are done body !!

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If you ran 100psi at idle what was the 9k pressure 130 ????

How long have you run like this ??
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Old Apr 13, 2013 | 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Sylvain2000
Wiring and relay are done body !!

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If you ran 100psi at idle what was the 9k pressure 130 ????

How long have you run like this ??
Yeah I was when I heard that as well.
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Old Apr 15, 2013 | 02:03 PM
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Shit sorry not 100PSI at idle LOL.
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Old Apr 18, 2013 | 08:49 PM
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So !!!

This heavy mf cat is back on the car

Did some runs tonight on the highway and i ended up having the fuel pressure set pretty high ~ 68 psi at idle.

The afr were obviously pretty rich at low rpm , peeked at ~13.1 at vtec and got leaner and leaner until 9k.

I would say 12.5 ~ 7k
12.2 - 8k
11.8 ~ 9k

I would say that im pretty max out with the rrfpr and the afr's are pretty good.
Sound like it will have to do for now.

What do you guys think ???
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Old Apr 18, 2013 | 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Sylvain2000
So !!!

This heavy mf cat is back on the car

Did some runs tonight on the highway and i ended up having the fuel pressure set pretty high ~ 68 psi at idle.

The afr were obviously pretty rich at low rpm , peeked at ~13.1 at vtec and got leaner and leaner until 9k.

I would say 12.5 ~ 7k
12.2 - 8k
11.8 ~ 9k

I would say that im pretty max out with the rrfpr and the afr's are pretty good.
Sound like it will have to do for now.

What do you guys think ???
You mean got richer and richer.

Glad the cat worked enough. That is a pretty ideal afr in vtec to redline How rich under, 11.2 - 11.5?
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