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Old May 10, 2014 | 11:09 AM
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Default Electric Supercharger are back?

I know there was a lot of buzz about electric superchargers in the past, (2007-2010) and the general conclusion was its a pipe dream POS idea.
But just recently a friend of mines mentioned that the FRS/BRZ/Madza community is going crazy about this new Phantom FTS Electric Supercharger Kit.

The dyno look legit and i'll assume technology is a lot better now and electric sc may be practical.

Anyone else notice this trend and thought about applying this setup to an s2000? Yes, I've search the forums, but all the posts are pretty outdated and perhaps electric SC are worth another look now?

Supposedly, its a simple low invasive installation and for guys like me living in California, a simple install and removal FI setup is convenient.
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Old May 10, 2014 | 11:56 AM
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Throw up a link to the BRZ forum topic you're referencing so I can see the details.
I saw the manufacturer's web page, but I still don't think technological advances have reached the point that makes this a practical mod. Unless, the BRZ has extremely restricted airflow..
Interested to see the chatter either way.
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Old May 10, 2014 | 12:55 PM
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my bad here it is:
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39719
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Old May 10, 2014 | 01:46 PM
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This thing uses a beefy brushless electric motor.

Compared to what we saw 5 years ago, this will have like 10-50x more power. No idea if thats enough but it seems possible that this COULD make a difference.

Even though im sceptic, but ive seen the power from these brushless motors and in the RC world, they are taking over the nitro powered engines. That says something!

Lets see how this develops. But i dont think im gonna trade in my GTX30 yet lol
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Old May 10, 2014 | 03:17 PM
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On the F20/22c that would be a great way to spool a large turbo IMO, run it as a compound setup that switches off the electric supercharger after passing its boost threshold.
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Old May 11, 2014 | 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by copec
On the F20/22c that would be a great way to spool a large turbo IMO, run it as a compound setup that switches off the electric supercharger after passing its boost threshold.
that idea sounds like a winner. load must pull on an alternator hard, to the point that it may drain the battery. but if only working intermittitly, efficient operation with great gains could be possible.
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Old May 11, 2014 | 11:12 AM
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Meh. It is cool but no way that iteration will keep up with the efficiency of the f20/f22. Look at the boost plot. It drops from 4 psi to 2 psi up top on that motor. Would need to figure a way to spin it faster in the top end of the rpm range.
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Old Jul 28, 2014 | 09:41 AM
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Maybe it doesn't have to make more power up top, it could just be a nice boost down low to get the s2000 going into that higher powerband.
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Old Jul 28, 2014 | 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by michaelnyden
Maybe it doesn't have to make more power up top, it could just be a nice boost down low to get the s2000 going into that higher powerband.
Then the issue becomes, is it a restriction up top? Our motor breaths a lot more then a lower revving BRZ/FRS motor, so naturally this Electric sc will provide less positive pressure on an F motor in its peak efficiency range. If it could be designed in a way that provides enough positive pressure at a lower rpm and then doesn’t interfere as a butt plug with flow once the breathing of the motor exceeds that of the electric motor, then there would be something, assuming the electrical system could also handle it in a repetitive fashion on a road course or Auto X.

Its a nifty idea to get some easy low end trq out of the car.
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Old Jul 28, 2014 | 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by s2000Junky
Originally Posted by michaelnyden' timestamp='1406569289' post='23262692
Maybe it doesn't have to make more power up top, it could just be a nice boost down low to get the s2000 going into that higher powerband.
Then the issue becomes, is it a restriction up top? Our motor breaths a lot more then a lower revving BRZ/FRS motor, so naturally this Electric sc will provide less positive pressure on an F motor in its peak efficiency range. If it could be designed in a way that provides enough positive pressure at a lower rpm and then doesn’t interfere as a butt plug with flow once the breathing of the motor exceeds that of the electric motor, then there would be something, assuming the electrical system could also handle it in a repetitive fashion on a road course or Auto X.

Its a nifty idea to get some easy low end trq out of the car.

Lol butt plug supercharger.
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