Electric Supercharger are back?
The reason why this concept is interesting for me is that I'm already tuned on AEM v2, and now I'm indecisive about my next move. I've done a lot of research (mostly on s2ki) on SC, TC, and NOS setups, and the electric SC sounds like a decent alternative for someone who is looking for a bit more power for daily driving.
I've been thinking about going for the SOS turbo kit, which is around $5500. To me, the kit seems to be well put together, and it certainly meets (and exceeds) the power level I'm looking for. From a performance, reliability, and ease of installtion perspective, it seems like a no brainer. Having talked to Thomas Knight, he recommended the ESC 550. For around $2000 + cost of battery, the projected boost level would be 5-6 psi in the low-mid range, and 4-5 psi at redline. This is assuming only one 12v battery supply. Two or three batteries could be connected in series to increase the voltage at the motor terminals, increasing boost throughout. Downside is that for $2000, you get a universal piping kit, so you're on your own to find a location to mount the SC, cut & drill some of the provided hardware, and connect the piping. It shouldn't be too bad, as there isn't an inter/after-cooler, and the only on-engine modification is the intake piping. However, you're not buying a direct "bolt-on." It would be a cool project, which is why I'm even considering doing it. I don't want to regret NOT getting the SOS turbo kit though...
I've been thinking about going for the SOS turbo kit, which is around $5500. To me, the kit seems to be well put together, and it certainly meets (and exceeds) the power level I'm looking for. From a performance, reliability, and ease of installtion perspective, it seems like a no brainer. Having talked to Thomas Knight, he recommended the ESC 550. For around $2000 + cost of battery, the projected boost level would be 5-6 psi in the low-mid range, and 4-5 psi at redline. This is assuming only one 12v battery supply. Two or three batteries could be connected in series to increase the voltage at the motor terminals, increasing boost throughout. Downside is that for $2000, you get a universal piping kit, so you're on your own to find a location to mount the SC, cut & drill some of the provided hardware, and connect the piping. It shouldn't be too bad, as there isn't an inter/after-cooler, and the only on-engine modification is the intake piping. However, you're not buying a direct "bolt-on." It would be a cool project, which is why I'm even considering doing it. I don't want to regret NOT getting the SOS turbo kit though...
Ask him about doing a group deal on here perhaps you being the guinea pig, you might be able to get a good deal on the first one. You could always get this kit now, have tremendous low-end and a mild boost in midrange, then later add on another supercharger or turbo inline. Honestly this kit would provide something that no other currently produced kit would on our cars can, instant torque at low-rpms.
Thomas Knight mentioned to me that his are a little more powerful than Phantom/FTS and also he has patents which were expensive to acquire which is why his kit is $2K vs $1.5K like the Phantom.
If only someone would make a cold-side twin screw kit for our car.
Thomas Knight mentioned to me that his are a little more powerful than Phantom/FTS and also he has patents which were expensive to acquire which is why his kit is $2K vs $1.5K like the Phantom.
If only someone would make a cold-side twin screw kit for our car.
Phantom.! It's in the name. Don't get suckered in to this. Air has a mass and to move in the quantities to make the claims you would need at least 15kw motor. 2 x12 volt batteries running as 24 volts means a current draw of 625 Amps. I don't see cables that big do you???? There is a PROFESSIONAL COMPANY in the UK. Doing this, and they are realistically claiming its use for bottom end spool up for turbo's or initial bottom end boost and it is huge compared to this pos.
give us some real world figures, speed of motor ( load and no load),KW of motor, air flow etc etc this is all smoke and mirrors.
give us some real world figures, speed of motor ( load and no load),KW of motor, air flow etc etc this is all smoke and mirrors.
Problem is...this kit isn't a complete kit. It requires parts to be fabricated to mount the SC, and because it's not developed for the S2000, the end user has to find a mounting location, fabricate the supporting parts, and install it. Basically, each install is a custom one. On top of that, there are variables in the motor design, battery selection, battery location, wiring, etc. that make going down this road a potentially fun, but unknown journey. If Thomas Knight is interested in developing a complete solution for the S2000 (maybe with a couple of options), then maybe there'd be some interest on this forum. Otherwise, there are just too many traditional FI options (either bolt-on or custom) and too much experience working with those options for a newcomer of FI to ignore.
Having said that, the electrical engineer in me is still interested, and I'll try to explore some options with TK to see if he can customize the kit for the S2000.
Having said that, the electrical engineer in me is still interested, and I'll try to explore some options with TK to see if he can customize the kit for the S2000.
I've actually had this idea of coupling the cool side of the turbo to a brushless RC style motor before phantom had surface on the market. I mean I don't see why it wouldn't work. Sure it's not gonna give your mad boost like the belt driven ones but I'm sure it can give the S a good kick in the pants.
Check out this article: http://autoweek.com/article/car-news...rger-explained
I don't think it's black magic of Volvo is putting it in their cars. And so if the F1 guys.
Check out this article: http://autoweek.com/article/car-news...rger-explained
I don't think it's black magic of Volvo is putting it in their cars. And so if the F1 guys.
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