I didn't read through the whole test on the frx/brz site, but what was the gain. 10whp was what i saw on the dyno sheets. If that's the case it was $100 per 1whp gain.

 

Lol butt plug supercharger.
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There is something for everyone in this world lol

 

I guess someone needs to try it on our car and dyno.

 

I can believe those Frs/brz all jumping for joy for 200whp. Yeah so what a electric supercharger actually works. But for 10-20whp and at a cost of $1600. It does not seem worth it for me. I would rather spend triple that$$ for a real super charger or turbo setup so there can be some real Gaines

 

It looks like you gain about 25whp and heaping of torque on the BRZ motor. That would scale up to about 30-35HP on our engines - which would probably be worth the $1600 for me. Heck, $1600 barely buys you a header and exhaust for this car - which combined might make 5-10HP in N/A form.

 

Plenty of us here that have spend upwards of $1k on a header or intake to only net 5whp.

Edit: Post right above me. Did not read before posting.

 

If it could sustain 20whp up top all the time I would use it for road courses as there is negligible heat. I thought about email Phantom to get some details but all my reading suggest it would be impractical for minutes of duration.

 

Sounds like it would just be a way to get the low-end torque to get the S2000 going on autoX and street driving scenarios. I think if we can get someone to contact them and eventually test/dyno it before and after we can understand how this would pair to our powerband.

 

This might be awesome if it could be combined with a traditional centrifugal S/C kit which doesn't make any boost down low because it is based on pulley speed. You would end up with something like a positive displacement/roots blower in which you have tangible power being made off idle essentially.

 

The system is legitimate and all claims and dynos posted are true. My friend is one of the beta-testers and I've also briefly met the creator.
It's a great product for the FRS/BRZ and eliminates the torque dip in their stock powerband. Only activated on WOT it's a nice kick in the pants and really brings the FRS/BRZ alive. Well worth it in my opinion for that application.

The limits of current design and technology doesn't appear to lend itself well to our vehicles. As others have mentioned, our higher RPM high flowing engines are not well suited to this. But every now and then I hear of updates to impellers and control systems from Phantom so who knows if something more suitable for the s2000 may eventually come down the pipe. As it is only engaged on WOT I would liken it more to an electric nitrous system than a full duty supercharger.

A few posts into that thread, I was the s2000 test pilot to compare an almost bone stock s2k with an early variant Phantom e-charger engaged and disengaged.

Against my CTSC AP1 it is actually quite impressive. Obviously doesn't compare in the top end range as boost tapers off, but if we were on a track or going through some twisties the comparable handling and added power makes for a great match up between the two vehicles.

[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLhZ31v0OEo[/media] - e-charger disabled
[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wau1k13Gwc[/media] - e-charger enabled