I think many people would like this product so long as it doesn't become a bottleneck in the upper rpm range in the intake tract. Ie. nice boost down low where the CFM requirements of our motors aren't yet exceeding their larger model supercharger. I think if we can get them to get a kit on a s2000 dyno before and after, they might have something here and could potentially do a group buy. This can be sold/marketed as a low and midrange powerband supplement.

 

All of this made me curious, I tried contacting phantom with no response but Thomas knight did respond to my inquiries and would do a test and group buy. His is a little more powerful than phantoms too but it's also a little more expensive, with regards to our questions of the esc being a restriction in the intake tract when not operational, he said a g35 did this test during a dyno and saw a four hp loss but of course really good gains with it on. So just something to think about. I almost wonder if there are any engineers here that can tell me why that potential restriction couldn't be removed by doing a y split intake pipe, ie. one end is a standard filter and another fork a few inches in the esc with a filter on the end, all converging to a single pipe as it enters the TB of course. Anyway, the possibility of a Thomas knight setup on our car is there if someone really were curious and wanted to become a distributor and test bed for this product, he said his calculations on our motor would mean about 5-6 psi to start which would taper off at 6K at a rate of -1psi/1000rpm.

 

The y-split wouldn't work because the supercharger would blow any air out the other filter. You would have to have a valve to close that intake tract. A bypass valve would likely work, or you could program the controller to spin the motor at a speed that would eliminate the drag. This would have the benefit of having it pre-spooled and therefore a quicker transition into boost.
I really like this idea as it could give the gains of a positive displacement supercharger at low RPMs and a turbo at high RPM....hmmmm maybe I should build my own system.

 

Based on some quick calculations, looks like I'd need about a 14.5kw motor to produce about 8lbs of boost at redline, if using a 70% efficient compressor wheel....hmmm time to go look at some motors.

 

Hmmm I was thinking it would be closer to 1.51 Jigga-watts. Then with the engagement of a flux capacitor, breathing of the engine in vtec wouldn't be restricted.

 

I'd be interested to see results from a higher flow application with anywhere between 5-10 psi peak boost. The idea of using an electrically driven compressor is interesting, especially in hybrid applications, where there is capacitance built into the drive-train. I wonder if OEM's have done much research in this area...

 

Well Thomas Knight said he sold one to an s2000 guy a long time ago. If someone on here wants to be the guinea pig, they can contact him and he said if you organize a group deal, you can get a really good deal.

 

michaelnyden, have you been able to reach out directly? Do you have any contact info? I'd be interested to at least talk about putting a kit together...

 

It's coming to cars in a meaningful fashion sooner rather than later. IMO, the BRZ kits are better than the crap that was out there before, but still aren't a reasonable alternative to a conventional supercharger or turbo kit.

FYI, turbo blowers are huge in the wastewater treatment market. Most use a permanent magnet motor directly coupled to a centrifugal compressor for relatively low pressure (anywhere from 6 - 22 psig). Some use magnetic bearings, some use air foil bearings. The same technology could come to cars, but right now, it's expensive and best suited to steady state applications.

http://eng-de.aerzen.com/Products/Tu...o-Generation-5

http://www.hsiblowers.com/products/h...o-blowers.html

http://www.apg-neuros.com/en/turbo-b...echnology.aspx

Tim

 

His email address is: ATSTurbo@aol.com (phone # 786-877-4880)

This is all public information on his website so I don't think he minds me putting it on here.