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I personally got the twinscroll initiative going in the aftermarket turbo world, and Ive dedicated years of work and hours upon hours of research into twinscroll technology. We LOVE twinscroll performance for three applications --
1) Drag - twinscroll is used here to spool a giant turbo fast, with a small displacement engine (especially 42R hondas and 47R supras)
2) Drift - twinscroll is used here bc we need instant torque and fast throttle response to keep the rear tires spinning constantly, never bogging
3) AWD - with AWD you can put power DOWN at all times, 4wheels all spinning means weve done our job well. Twinscroll does that great, hence our obsession with evos and sti's
An S2000 *IMHO* does not fit into any of the categories. Its a terrible drift car, the chassis is so well balanced its almost a shame to waste it for a drag build (yes i know it can go realll fast but its VERY hard to put a cage in one without ruining its practicaility). Its pretty easy to lose traction with a singlescroll setup, the twinscroll will always be spinnnning... this is compounded by design factors - the big issue of how sensitive S2000s are to backpressure (a major factor in proper twinscroll systems), compounded further by the fitment since im a FIRM beleiver the turbo should be placed where we put it (for CG and piping reasons) i do not like the forward mount setups, nor the top mount setups in this chassis. We experimented a lot with the twinscroll S2000 and in all honesty, it just doesnt work out the way we want for this chassis. That is not saying there isnt something else on the horizon tho...
1) Drag - twinscroll is used here to spool a giant turbo fast, with a small displacement engine (especially 42R hondas and 47R supras)
2) Drift - twinscroll is used here bc we need instant torque and fast throttle response to keep the rear tires spinning constantly, never bogging
3) AWD - with AWD you can put power DOWN at all times, 4wheels all spinning means weve done our job well. Twinscroll does that great, hence our obsession with evos and sti's
An S2000 *IMHO* does not fit into any of the categories. Its a terrible drift car, the chassis is so well balanced its almost a shame to waste it for a drag build (yes i know it can go realll fast but its VERY hard to put a cage in one without ruining its practicaility). Its pretty easy to lose traction with a singlescroll setup, the twinscroll will always be spinnnning... this is compounded by design factors - the big issue of how sensitive S2000s are to backpressure (a major factor in proper twinscroll systems), compounded further by the fitment since im a FIRM beleiver the turbo should be placed where we put it (for CG and piping reasons) i do not like the forward mount setups, nor the top mount setups in this chassis. We experimented a lot with the twinscroll S2000 and in all honesty, it just doesnt work out the way we want for this chassis. That is not saying there isnt something else on the horizon tho...
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no problem, im happy to help. once you see what we're working on next, i think a lot of people will be blown away.... nothing has ever been done like this before that i am aware of. There probably will not be pics until late spring time, but i promise it is revolutionary 
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Originally Posted by Full Race Geoff,Oct 22 2009, 01:15 PM
no problem, im happy to help. once you see what we're working on next, i think a lot of people will be blown away.... nothing has ever been done like this before that i am aware of. There probably will not be pics until late spring time, but i promise it is revolutionary
Can't wait to see what you guys have in store for s2000.
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Originally Posted by Full Race Geoff,Oct 22 2009, 01:15 PM
no problem, im happy to help. once you see what we're working on next, i think a lot of people will be blown away.... nothing has ever been done like this before that i am aware of. There probably will not be pics until late spring time, but i promise it is revolutionary
i'll believe it when i see it
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Originally Posted by Full Race Geoff,Oct 22 2009, 07:46 AM
I personally got the twinscroll initiative going in the aftermarket turbo world, and Ive dedicated years of work and hours upon hours of research into twinscroll technology. We LOVE twinscroll performance for three applications --
1) Drag - twinscroll is used here to spool a giant turbo fast, with a small displacement engine (especially 42R hondas and 47R supras)
2) Drift - twinscroll is used here bc we need instant torque and fast throttle response to keep the rear tires spinning constantly, never bogging
3) AWD - with AWD you can put power DOWN at all times, 4wheels all spinning means weve done our job well. Twinscroll does that great, hence our obsession with evos and sti's
An S2000 *IMHO* does not fit into any of the categories. Its a terrible drift car, the chassis is so well balanced its almost a shame to waste it for a drag build (yes i know it can go realll fast but its VERY hard to put a cage in one without ruining its practicaility). Its pretty easy to lose traction with a singlescroll setup, the twinscroll will always be spinnnning... this is compounded by design factors - the big issue of how sensitive S2000s are to backpressure (a major factor in proper twinscroll systems), compounded further by the fitment since im a FIRM beleiver the turbo should be placed where we put it (for CG and piping reasons) i do not like the forward mount setups, nor the top mount setups in this chassis. We experimented a lot with the twinscroll S2000 and in all honesty, it just doesnt work out the way we want for this chassis. That is not saying there isnt something else on the horizon tho...
1) Drag - twinscroll is used here to spool a giant turbo fast, with a small displacement engine (especially 42R hondas and 47R supras)
2) Drift - twinscroll is used here bc we need instant torque and fast throttle response to keep the rear tires spinning constantly, never bogging
3) AWD - with AWD you can put power DOWN at all times, 4wheels all spinning means weve done our job well. Twinscroll does that great, hence our obsession with evos and sti's
An S2000 *IMHO* does not fit into any of the categories. Its a terrible drift car, the chassis is so well balanced its almost a shame to waste it for a drag build (yes i know it can go realll fast but its VERY hard to put a cage in one without ruining its practicaility). Its pretty easy to lose traction with a singlescroll setup, the twinscroll will always be spinnnning... this is compounded by design factors - the big issue of how sensitive S2000s are to backpressure (a major factor in proper twinscroll systems), compounded further by the fitment since im a FIRM beleiver the turbo should be placed where we put it (for CG and piping reasons) i do not like the forward mount setups, nor the top mount setups in this chassis. We experimented a lot with the twinscroll S2000 and in all honesty, it just doesnt work out the way we want for this chassis. That is not saying there isnt something else on the horizon tho...
Your tune better not change once you guys come out with a twin-scroll for the S2000.
I would add to your list:
ROAD RACING: where the added advantage of quick spool and HUGE mid-range torque gains are going to be just what the S2000 is looking for when pulling out of the corner just after the apex.
I thought I would never see the day Geoff bag'd on a twin-scroll set-up because whether this community knows it or not, YOU are the man that pushed the twin scroll onto the aftermarket market.
Stop playing around down there in Az land Geoff and make a twin-scroll set-up for the s2k already!
J. R.
