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Old Jan 24, 2009 | 11:16 AM
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Old Jan 24, 2009 | 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Sellout' date='Jan 24 2009, 12:11 PM
Yeah yeah, except Eaton blowers sound like crap and pump some ridiculous hot air. Someone needs to make a twin screw setup for the S2K if positive displacement is ever going to really be taken seriously for something other than a V8.
that would be my choice if there was any... The only reason why I say that, is I've been selling Callaways for over 8 years, and their most recent additions called the Callaway 580 package, has a nice powerband based on a twin-screw.. But for now, it's almost 75% Comptech, and 25% Static X... Since I agree I don't like the noise of the charger either...
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Old Jan 24, 2009 | 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Sellout' date='Jan 24 2009, 03:11 PM
Yeah yeah, except Eaton blowers sound like crap and pump some ridiculous hot air. Someone needs to make a twin screw setup for the S2K if positive displacement is ever going to really be taken seriously for something other than a V8.
thats funny, i have one on my car and have logged intake temps. about 10 degrees over ambient in around town driving. the kit is aftercooled

how well would you turbo setup work if there was no fmic
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Old Jan 24, 2009 | 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by dwnshft & xlr8' date='Jan 24 2009, 01:45 PM
that would be my choice if there was any... The only reason why I say that, is I've been selling Callaways for over 8 years, and their most recent additions called the Callaway 580 package, has a nice powerband based on a twin-screw.. But for now, it's almost 75% Comptech, and 25% Static X... Since I agree I don't like the noise of the charger either...
You really can't go wrong with the Comptech, although I'd personally go with Vortech, but it's really just a personal preference and not a technical reason. I also wouldn't recommend a roots blower on a stock engine for the same reason that I wouldn't run a nitrous system without a window switch. Boost at low rpm stresses the engine more than it does at high rpm, and really, who is ever really happy with 5-6psi for years at a time?
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Old Jan 24, 2009 | 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by dwnshft & xlr8' date='Jan 23 2009, 12:43 PM
based on this opinion.... and many more that are seeing my needs for track use.. Yes I live in Southern Cali, so Buttonwillow, Willow Springs, Cali Speedway, Laguna Seca, and many more are my stomping grounds...

Although "Sellout"s comment regarding the best or properly done turbo setup is true to everything motorsport, were a perfectly executed combination will dominate....


But time, money and support can dwindle, and could end in a drastic result... So so far it's 75% likely I'm going SC, and after talking to many SC owners personally over the years COMPTECH will be the choice at 65% so far, haven't talk to anyone personally on the STATIC X kit yet... so will see...
That NUVI head unit is not very good, I would highly recomend the KW if you must go SC.
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Old Jan 25, 2009 | 05:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Sellout' date='Jan 24 2009, 03:11 PM
Yeah yeah, except Eaton blowers sound like crap and pump some ridiculous hot air. Someone needs to make a twin screw setup for the S2K if positive displacement is ever going to really be taken seriously for something other than a V8.
every FI setup blows hot air, you compress air and you get heat, it's that simple. hence why every decent FI setup has an intercooler of some kind.

twin screws scream too, the Kenne Bell kit we put on my buddy's mustang was just as loud as the SOT kit. to me it sounds awesome and it's only loud when you're in boost, not all the time, so normal driving you don't hear it at all. a twin screw blower like what's in the Kenne Bell kits would be awesome since they so much more efficient and flow so much more hp, but it's a unicorn at this point.
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Old Jan 25, 2009 | 05:32 AM
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Originally Posted by ArchAngel2K' date='Jan 24 2009, 07:36 AM
the bad thing about SC is that you are limited to what you can do. lets say you wanted to be at 9psi at 3500 rpm's you cant do that with a SC.
you mean you can't do that with a centrifugal blower

the biggest drawback right now is that there's no blower kits out there for the S that will flow a lot of power, say 500+whp. unless you're on church's magic dyno then all the kits out there can do it

this guy mentioned road racing and unless you're already a sick nasty experienced driver, you're not going on the track in a 500whp S2000. you're just going to make a mistake and it's going to be bad I mentioned the SOT kit since you get more midrange than any other supercharger kit available and no matter how quickly a turbo spools it's not going to be as quick and smooth as the supercharger. so when you get on the gas mid turn the supercharger will be much easier to control vs the turbo surging and spooling.

in the end get what you want, you're going to be off the track 99% of the time anyway, so ultimately what's more fun on the street should influence the decision more. personally I'm going turbo and if I make it out to a HPDE event I'll most likely just turn down the boost and deal with the turbo's spool time.
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Old Jan 25, 2009 | 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by candymanjl' date='Jan 25 2009, 06:32 AM
you mean you can't do that with a centrifugal blower

the biggest drawback right now is that there's no blower kits out there for the S that will flow a lot of power, say 500+whp. unless you're on church's magic dyno then all the kits out there can do it

this guy mentioned road racing and unless you're already a sick nasty experienced driver, you're not going on the track in a 500whp S2000. you're just going to make a mistake and it's going to be bad I mentioned the SOT kit since you get more midrange than any other supercharger kit available and no matter how quickly a turbo spools it's not going to be as quick and smooth as the supercharger. so when you get on the gas mid turn the supercharger will be much easier to control vs the turbo surging and spooling.

in the end get what you want, you're going to be off the track 99% of the time anyway, so ultimately what's more fun on the street should influence the decision more. personally I'm going turbo and if I make it out to a HPDE event I'll most likely just turn down the boost and deal with the turbo's spool time.
but since in actuality track days on my car are adding every year... So eventually it might turn into a full track car down the line.. I did find a nice well taken care of REV-HARD unit for a good price that might sway me to go turbo, which I could small match the turbo for better trackability, but now I enter the area of reliability, and longevity..
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Old Jan 25, 2009 | 12:34 PM
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[quote name='candymanjl' date='Jan 25 2009, 06:21 AM'] every FI setup blows hot air, you compress air and you get heat, it's that simple.
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Old Jan 25, 2009 | 01:00 PM
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I would add that with a SC and Roots your boost will always be a slave to rpm. A turbo has much more flexibility as it is based on CFM. Just look at my STI for instance, the ECM can modulate the boost controller so that the factory can maintain high reliability and the compressor stays in or as close to the efficacy island as possible.

A buddy of mine and I built a 04 Cobra and a Lightning which both had whipples and they both laid down huge power, but the only reason we used the whipple is that it bolted on with no other changes. They do sound great and they both had unbelievable throttle response, in fact it was almost hard to modulate it was so snappy.
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