heh, you're gonna put a lot of tuners out of business

 

LOL including myself

To be honest I really want people to start understanding that tuning is not an art form, it's simpley math and science. There is no magic. What makes a good tuner stand out from a not so good one is that he understands more than just how to use the EMS software. Telling someone they need race gas for 15psi of boost on a built motor makes me think his tuner is on the not so good side.

 

This guy tunes on EMS, Hondata, Motec, and any other engine management. I really think he knows his stuff. He is a GA. Tech grad and one smart SOB. He knows that I daily drive my car and that it's 95+ degrees everyday here, so I am gonna go with his advice. Plus, I can hardly keep the tires stick to the ground at 11 psi, the high boost setting was too crazy for daily driving...but fun as hell Did you check out his web page? dynotuner.net. He got 357 whp on a stock Lovefab S at 8psi. I think that is pretty good. To be honest, I've never had another tuner or even another turbo'd car, but I know this guy has been doing this for at least 20 years and an appt. takes a month to get with him. I figure if he is capable of tuning many different race series, he is quite capable of tuning my S.

 

fperra, just out of curiosity, how come we have the same torque value when you have 62 more hp? Is that mani design or differences of turbo? Just curious. Also, I want everyone to know that I am not running the Lovefab turbo, I have the turbo that came iwth my UR kit which I believe is inferior to the GT ball bearing turbos. Correct?

 

It's the dyno. HP is a calculation of TQ x engine RMP/5252. Some dynos require you to put in a gear ratio. If you don't have the exact ratio in there then the numbers will be off. I was just at a shop the other day and they had a WRX on the dyno. They didn't set a ratio and the car was making 340TQ and 56 HP

 

[QUOTE=jbotstein1,Jul 11 2006, 11:47 AM]fperra, just out of curiosity, how come we have the same torque value when you have 62 more hp?

 

I have the first LoveFab GT1 manifold and DP and way over 300 miles on it(more like about 2500). I have had no problems except a little vibration at 2800-3200 rpm but I believe as soon as my braces get here it will be fixed. Of course my charge piping is from UR not LoveFab, and I don't like the way Cody chose to route his piping. I think that's where all the problems started. The way he has them running just doesn't leave enough play(which can bind the manifold up and cause the welds to crack or cause vibrations) for the engine to move around under acceleration and deceleration.
Sorry you're having such problems with the kit, but that doesn't mean everyone is experiencing the same or feels the same just because of your problems.

 

I think his tuner is just running very high timing and should back it off for more boost on 93 octane.
jbotstein1, have your tuner drop your timing to around 22 degrees at the max on the top end and you should be able to run more boost on 93 octane. You should be able to safely run at least 14 or 15 psi.
Isn't this correct with his setup fperra?

 

Well, I won't suggest what timing he should run, but I currently have my max timing set at 24.3 degrees at 13 psi, 21 degrees at 16 psi and 15.3 at 24 psi.

 

The tuner he's using is very well respected in the area, and will tune as conservative or agressive as you'd tell him too. He also does all the Motec work for the Turner motorsports Speedvison WC BMW's.

It's also not his first rodeo with a Turbo S2k. I'm betting he's reccomending the low boost # to stop jbotstein1 from coming back with broken pieces.

I'm also not sure if metro Atlanta is on oxygenated fuel all the time.