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Old Feb 8, 2013 | 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Reapur
Truth be told, every turbo build will have some kind of downtime at some point. Using that as an excuse to not ship it back for warranty replacement / repair is moronic.


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It's funny how you went from saying they don't crack or its a fake to its moronic he didn't send it back. And nobody said it was cracked over and over. It cracked once in numerous spots. He welded it and sold the car. I'm just glad my sidewinder hasn't cracked but probably cause I spent a few hundred more and bought a better product
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Old Feb 8, 2013 | 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by SlosIIk
Originally Posted by Reapur' timestamp='1360273544' post='22321938
Truth be told, every turbo build will have some kind of downtime at some point. Using that as an excuse to not ship it back for warranty replacement / repair is moronic.


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It's funny how you went from saying they don't crack or its a fake to its moronic he didn't send it back. And nobody said it was cracked over and over. It cracked once in numerous spots. He welded it and sold the car. I'm just glad my sidewinder hasn't cracked but probably cause I spent a few hundred more and bought a better product
Maybe you should brush up on your reading and comprehension. I said that they are not prone to cracking, not that it would never ever crack. The reason fake was suggested was because the OP bought a fake pfab manifold, actually it's not even a copy of a manifold Pang offers. It's just some lie the seller said to make the buyer think he was getting a quality product for cheap.

If he was selling the car why would he pay for a welder to fix the manifold when he could have had an RMA from pfab? Your story has a lot of holes in it, and your credibility is pretty much zero. Don't come on here and bash perfectly good product with hundreds of satisfied customers. Your buddy had an isolated incident and handled it in a stupid way. Full race and Full Blown have had manifolds crack too, bet that makes them shit too by your logic.


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Old Feb 14, 2013 | 05:21 AM
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Originally Posted by timg
I think you have two options:
1.) Run it as is and don't expect great performance or reliability (probably the cheapest option)
2.) Sell:
  • PLM mani and associated piping,
  • Godspeed t4 twin scroll(I think) turbo,
  • Intercooler - brand ?? - NIB
  • RC 1000 injectors - NIB
  • Type RS BOV - new
  • EMUSA Racing wastegate - NIB
  • various clamps, piping, and crap - NIB
Keep:
  • AEM ECU - used
  • Omnipower 3 bar MAP sensor - NIB
I broke it down that way for a reason. If you go buy a turbo kit from someone reputable (PTuning, PFab, Full Race, Kings, etc.), it will come with every part in the sell category except for the injectors. It's easier, cheaper, and faster to get a complete kit with good parts than to mix and match components from multiple kits. I said to sell the RC 1000 injectors because those would be a nightmare for tuning and drivability. Their 650's (~450-500 whp) seem to be the limit of easy tuning and good drivability, otherwise something like the ID 1000's would be the way to go.

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Hey Tim,
Took your advice and am selling it all except the AEM v2 and the 3map sensor.

I'm in the process of buying that Vortech V2 kit from anarchy187. This was actually another member's old SC kit(Sung).

So, new digs will be AP1 bone stock with a Vortech V2 kit with 928 upgrade, ID1000's(recent purchase), walbro pump, and the AEM.

Thanks all, I'll be trying to document this install with pics!
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Old Feb 14, 2013 | 06:59 AM
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Originally Posted by SlosIIk
Originally Posted by Reapur' timestamp='1360187079' post='22319310
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heres the manifold in question, Definitly not a knock off. also I asked him exactly how long he had the car with the kit on he said less than 2 months and it was cracked 3/4s of the way around the t3 flange and 1/2 way around the dump flange. and he never asked pfab to repair cause he did not feel like waiting, all manifolds crack but less than two months is rediculous. who wants to buy stuff to keep waiting for it to come back
Pang offers a replacement warranty. If ur friend bothered to send it back to him he would have probably gotten a replacement due to manufacture defect. As long as he's original owner, it's not modified in any way, he will honor his warranty. Slamming the reputation of a well known reputable fabricator without following the right course of action is stupid. If there's a flaw with the metal in the tubing or the welds didn't penetrate he would fix the issue no problem.


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point was a full race, afi etc will not crack like this. its a pita to keep pulling shit off your car to send back and forth. the manifold cracked, period and it was a pfab. if the company was as good as you claim then the welds should have been penetrated properly. also when cars are built to race in classes every weekend people do not have time to wait for stuff to go back and forth. so lets agree pfab is a decent manifold if you dont want to spend 1200-1500 and the car can sit for awhile every time it breaks. that works
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Anything can happen to any product. I've seen AMS and Buschar manifolds crack on Evo's, Full Race mani's crack on STI's, seen cast mani's crack on numerous cars. Here is a thread for a cracked AFI manifold on here. Does that make all these companies bad or their products junk, no, nothing is impossible.

https://www.s2ki.com/s2000/topic/986...turbo-install/
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Old Feb 14, 2013 | 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by hvAlfaWant_S2000
Originally Posted by hvAlfaWant_S2000' timestamp='1359746374' post='22308394
come on bro you go with the aem but you bought a godspeed turbo?
I bought the whole sha-bang (turbo, wg, bov, intercooler, AEM, dp, injectors, etc.) from a dood on cl. Wouldnt let me pick and choose.

OK folks. Provide some feedback (Im ready!) on each part I have and what NEEDS to be swapped/sold/replaced.

Got:

PLM mani and associated piping - never installedplenty of people have used this with great luck
Godspeed t4 twin scroll(I think) turbo - NIB- id go somethign different, some of the "ebay" turbos work fine others do not
AEM ECU - usedkeep this
Intercooler - brand ?? - NIBif sizing is good id use it
RC 1000 injectors - NIBperfectly fine, i've used rc1000's on alot of cars and made good power and had great driveablilty
Type RS BOV - newthis works fine
EMUSA Racing wastegate - NIBcan be a hit or miss, i've used emusa gates on several cars and haven't had a single issue, held steady boost and no spikes, tial is another great choice but will cost more
Omnipower 3 bar MAP sensor - NIBkeep
various clamps, piping, and crap - NIB

Sell the T4 and get what??

Thanks all!
personally i would not sell the turbo stuff and go S/C majority of s/c'd s2k end up going turbo cause they arent happy with the s/c. ive rode in many and was far from impressed, imo turbo is so much more efficient as long as you size it correctly
T3 turbo is plenty good, i myself am going with a Holset Hx35 as its twin scroll, they can take all sorts of abuse and make good power, ill be using the same manifold you have here, if it cracks ill re weld it no big deal to me, ive seen plenty of high name brand manifolds cracks, it happens.
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Old Feb 14, 2013 | 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Timmay208
Got:

PLM mani and associated piping - never installedplenty of people have used this with great luck
Godspeed t4 twin scroll(I think) turbo - NIB- id go somethign different, some of the "ebay" turbos work fine others do not
AEM ECU - usedkeep this
Intercooler - brand ?? - NIBif sizing is good id use it
RC 1000 injectors - NIBperfectly fine, i've used rc1000's on alot of cars and made good power and had great driveablilty
Type RS BOV - newthis works fine
EMUSA Racing wastegate - NIBcan be a hit or miss, i've used emusa gates on several cars and haven't had a single issue, held steady boost and no spikes, tial is another great choice but will cost more
Omnipower 3 bar MAP sensor - NIBkeep
various clamps, piping, and crap - NIB

Sell the T4 and get what??

Thanks all!

personally i would not sell the turbo stuff and go S/C majority of s/c'd s2k end up going turbo cause they arent happy with the s/c. ive rode in many and was far from impressed, imo turbo is so much more efficient as long as you size it correctly
T3 turbo is plenty good, i myself am going with a Holset Hx35 as its twin scroll, they can take all sorts of abuse and make good power, ill be using the same manifold you have here, if it cracks ill re weld it no big deal to me, ive seen plenty of high name brand manifolds cracks, it happens.
Thanks Timmay.
By your account I have all the turbo parts minus a reputable turbo right now. However, I'm def going SC for now and going to see where that brings me. If I hate it, which I dont think I will, then I'll sell it and get into a turbo setup.

I want to iterate how important this board is to FI noobs like me. Thanks to everyone who contributes their vast knowledge and time to these posts. They help tremendously.
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Old Feb 14, 2013 | 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by hvAlfaWant_S2000
Originally Posted by Timmay208' timestamp='1360863384' post='22337658

Got:

PLM mani and associated piping - never installedplenty of people have used this with great luck
Godspeed t4 twin scroll(I think) turbo - NIB- id go somethign different, some of the "ebay" turbos work fine others do not
AEM ECU - usedkeep this
Intercooler - brand ?? - NIBif sizing is good id use it
RC 1000 injectors - NIBperfectly fine, i've used rc1000's on alot of cars and made good power and had great driveablilty
Type RS BOV - newthis works fine
EMUSA Racing wastegate - NIBcan be a hit or miss, i've used emusa gates on several cars and haven't had a single issue, held steady boost and no spikes, tial is another great choice but will cost more
Omnipower 3 bar MAP sensor - NIBkeep
various clamps, piping, and crap - NIB

Sell the T4 and get what??

Thanks all!

personally i would not sell the turbo stuff and go S/C majority of s/c'd s2k end up going turbo cause they arent happy with the s/c. ive rode in many and was far from impressed, imo turbo is so much more efficient as long as you size it correctly
T3 turbo is plenty good, i myself am going with a Holset Hx35 as its twin scroll, they can take all sorts of abuse and make good power, ill be using the same manifold you have here, if it cracks ill re weld it no big deal to me, ive seen plenty of high name brand manifolds cracks, it happens.
Thanks Timmay.
By your account I have all the turbo parts minus a reputable turbo right now. However, I'm def going SC for now and going to see where that brings me. If I hate it, which I dont think I will, then I'll sell it and get into a turbo setup.

I want to iterate how important this board is to FI noobs like me. Thanks to everyone who contributes their vast knowledge and time to these posts. They help tremendously.
Seriously wasting your money even before you've started. Stick with turbo.


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Old Feb 14, 2013 | 11:33 AM
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hate to break it to you kids... all manifolds made out of piping WILL eventually crack.
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Old Feb 14, 2013 | 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by hvAlfaWant_S2000
Originally Posted by Timmay208' timestamp='1360863384' post='22337658

Got:

PLM mani and associated piping - never installedplenty of people have used this with great luck
Godspeed t4 twin scroll(I think) turbo - NIB- id go somethign different, some of the "ebay" turbos work fine others do not
AEM ECU - usedkeep this
Intercooler - brand ?? - NIBif sizing is good id use it
RC 1000 injectors - NIBperfectly fine, i've used rc1000's on alot of cars and made good power and had great driveablilty
Type RS BOV - newthis works fine
EMUSA Racing wastegate - NIBcan be a hit or miss, i've used emusa gates on several cars and haven't had a single issue, held steady boost and no spikes, tial is another great choice but will cost more
Omnipower 3 bar MAP sensor - NIBkeep
various clamps, piping, and crap - NIB

Sell the T4 and get what??

Thanks all!

personally i would not sell the turbo stuff and go S/C majority of s/c'd s2k end up going turbo cause they arent happy with the s/c. ive rode in many and was far from impressed, imo turbo is so much more efficient as long as you size it correctly
T3 turbo is plenty good, i myself am going with a Holset Hx35 as its twin scroll, they can take all sorts of abuse and make good power, ill be using the same manifold you have here, if it cracks ill re weld it no big deal to me, ive seen plenty of high name brand manifolds cracks, it happens.
Thanks Timmay.
By your account I have all the turbo parts minus a reputable turbo right now. However, I'm def going SC for now and going to see where that brings me. If I hate it, which I dont think I will, then I'll sell it and get into a turbo setup.

I want to iterate how important this board is to FI noobs like me. Thanks to everyone who contributes their vast knowledge and time to these posts. They help tremendously.
i about made that mistake, untill i rode in/drove a few s/c setups


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hate to break it to you kids... all manifolds made out of piping WILL eventually crack.
exactly!!
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