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Old Feb 10, 2010 | 03:34 AM
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Originally Posted by godmachine,Feb 10 2010, 12:57 AM
The lack of them saying anything is the only thing bothering me.

Maybe they dont wanna get dragged into a pissing match with hypertune and I can understand that , but we are pretty much getting one side of a story and then people who like inlinepro giving the thoughts they have.

I wanna hear it straight from inline or I will just start assuming like everyone else in the world that he is telling the truth. In that case getting my buisness
this is what i was trying to say... the lack of response from inline is bothering alot of people.

Mr. hypertune has pretty muched called them out on S2ki and on several other forums. I simply just find it a lil strange that such a well known company as inline, who has done so many great things for the s2000 comunity would stand quiet.
Old Feb 10, 2010 | 03:56 AM
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Originally Posted by BerlinaMOBster,Feb 10 2010, 04:34 AM
this is what i was trying to say... the lack of response from inline is bothering alot of people.

Mr. hypertune has pretty muched called them out on S2ki and on several other forums. I simply just find it a lil strange that such a well known company as inline, who has done so many great things for the s2000 comunity would stand quiet.
Why wouldnt they, they know they have ripped it!

I must admit, i do find it funny that just because IP are a sponsor of the forum, that a mod should step in saying what he has as it is FACT, that this manifold design was and has been released for years and sold within the US by various companies, and it seems that IP have decided to rip it off and sell it as their own, regardless of patents, as this has been manufactured within the US, it stands to reason, the grounds are very much thier for them to have the cleaners go through them.

I just love how everyone is quick to assume, but have no idea what the real product, or how long it has been available for, and who made it, arrogance or ignorance?

I hope for once, a company is made to pay for the theft of someone else's hard work or ideas.

Respect is something that takes so long to earn, but so quick to lose, well done IP
Old Feb 10, 2010 | 04:16 AM
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Originally Posted by wadzii,Feb 9 2010, 12:44 PM
the only one loosing respect is hypertune.. coming on a forum like a 2 yr old crying that something im sure he has never seen in person is a copy.

cool story bro
You think I need to see it in person?

Can your mother recognise you from a picture, or does she need to see you in person?

Don't you wonder why there is no response from IP?

You should think how you would react in my situation.

I was notified about this when first posted but I only decided to comment here, na forum and K20A.org when people were saying it was a copy and others were saying they are wrong.

I could hardly say nothing could I? is that what you would do? Honestly?

Tell me what you do for a job and I'll try to paint a picture you might understand a little better.

To put it simply, this is not like reading harry potter then writing a book about magic.

This is more like photocopying the book on different colour paper, then claiming it is your own writing.

Do you understand?

HELLO Inline Pro

Got any comment?
Old Feb 10, 2010 | 04:30 AM
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Regarding the whole suing situation, nothing like that is going to happen.

I'm not Apple, and in any case no patent covers my design. Being in Australia kind of makes it difficult too.

I'm not even interested in looking into it TBH, as I'm too busy to bother and I doubt there will be any lost revenue for me either. (possibly the opposite in fact)

I would be happy with a message from inline Pro saying:

"shit dude, we hadn't seen your manifold advertised any where and thought you weren't selling them any more. Sorry!!!"

Or:

"it was the apprentice!!! he said it was a good idea, now we look like a bunch of dick heads!!! please forgive us and tell everyone on the forums that we're all friends now"

To which I would respond:

"shit happens mate ..... not really cool, but I'll get over it. Why didn't you just ask? If I knew you wanted to cast an IM, I could have designed you your own for a resonable fee..... Maybe next time?"

or something like that.
Old Feb 10, 2010 | 05:11 AM
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I have have things that i have produced ripped of, not even made a little different, but copied EXACTLY and given no credit for. the copier even claims that the stuff is his. You dont see me in a pissing contest with that shop on the internet do you? A public forum is NOT the place to do that. Call IP up and talk to them directly, I'm sure they are reasonable. If you come across as a dick they are surely going to respond in the same manner, if at all.

So someone copied your design (you claim, there is no proof), make a better one and make it so people can actually get one.

Hell, before this thread I had only heard rumors and fair tails of a hypertune intake manifold.
Old Feb 10, 2010 | 05:40 AM
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Wow Momentum, you obviously don’t understand reference frames as well as fluid dynamics. Ill say it one last time, you can have negative pressure, if you use gage pressure (relative pressure scale).
I have also said this multiple times, however looking at something on a different scale doesn't change what it actually is. It's called "relative" for a reason. I think everyone else reading the thread clearly understands my point. Not that it's relevant to our argument but absolute pressure measured in KPA is by far the most used pressure measurement throughout the world in our industry, not gage pressure.

As for the irreverent diagrams I posted, I didn’t make those diagrams. They come straight out of a fluid dynamics text book. They existed long before your CFD software ever did. In fact your software was built using these equations, so I don’t know how you come to the conclusion that they are irrelevant?
They were irrelevant because the one you claimed had a velocity stack and the worst flow was actually a pipe sticking through a wall, did you miss that when you were posting or did you hope everyone else would?

As for your CFD diagrams, yes they are correct, but only marginally and only for NA car. Your flow geometry is incorrect, and I noticed that you conveniently left out the pressure differential.
I also used 25psi inlet pressure, care to explain how my flow geometry is incorrect?

both configurations have the same velocity stack profile. The only difference is that one is elevated and one is bottom mount. You will notice that the bottom mount out performs the elevated version, just like the loss factor diagram predicted. Maybe you should go try this one yourself so I don’t have to keep trying to set you straight.
Actually neither of them has a velocity stack, one has a smooth entrance floor and the other has a raised stack but only a 1/4 bell, i could have told you that would flow worse from the turbulence off the strait edge around the bell. It's funny that you keep avoiding comparisons using actual velocity stacks... I don't even know why I keep posting It's irrelevant to the thread and I think by this point it's obvious neither of us is going to change our opinion.

It's no coincidence that every forced induction intake manifold that Cosworth makes (including the ones they made for turbo champ cars) had full radius velocity stacks off the plenum floor. I think we will both agree that the engineers at Cosworth might have us both beat when it comes to designing intake manifolds with no budget?
Old Feb 10, 2010 | 05:49 AM
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[QUOTE=wadzii,Feb 10 2010, 02:11 PM] I have have things that i have produced ripped of, not even made a little different, but copied EXACTLY and given no credit for.
Old Feb 10, 2010 | 07:16 PM
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Hypertune intake manifold is sick!!!!! Any other s2k products from your company?
Old Feb 11, 2010 | 08:08 AM
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Sorry guys for a DELAYED response.

I am not here to argue over the internet, but I haven't been on to even see this thread until this morning. I haven't been at work for almost 4 days cause the winterstorm we've had.

http://www.nbcwashington.com/weather/stori...d-84102207.html



As for the intake manifold, we were approached by a outsource company to create this intake manifold. The design was presented to us, we changed a few things to our likings, and went with the prototype batch.




I did not copy a hypertune intake manifold. I used a design that has proved itself in the industry for a long time. Our goals at inlinepro are to make horsepower like a few people here want.

Again, I'm not here to argue or have a e-forum fight. It is more of people wanting to know where I have been.

AGAIN - things are really delayed with the turbo back to back testing with us getting pushed back on work cause of the snow, our time for personal testing will also get pushed back

Anyone in the Mid-A area, please drive safe.
Old Feb 11, 2010 | 08:41 AM
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Im in Frederick, MD and its brutal here. About 4 feet of snow on the roads. Im trying to come to your place soon IP



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