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Old Jun 20, 2011 | 01:56 PM
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Heat soak is a power-killer, no ifs ands or buts about it.
Ya thats what im going to go with... the tuner told me this is typical for the 91 piss water gas we have out here and the f@#king summers that make hell seem like the arctic... fuk az and its heat..........
Any way you can convert over to E85? It has a much lower flash point than gas and helps the car run cooler. I notice a crazy difference between E85/91 octane when driving my car in the heat.

Either that or purchase a FMIC and see if that makes a difference.
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Old Jun 20, 2011 | 02:42 PM
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are you running a SOS kit or a CTSC kit from your sig?
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Old Jun 20, 2011 | 03:06 PM
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Comptech with alot of SoS upgrades and standalone ecu
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Old Jun 20, 2011 | 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by itlynstalyn
Originally Posted by Kyushin' timestamp='1308600575' post='20701689
[quote name='itlynstalyn' timestamp='1308599644' post='20701625']
Heat soak is a power-killer, no ifs ands or buts about it.
Ya thats what im going to go with... the tuner told me this is typical for the 91 piss water gas we have out here and the f@#king summers that make hell seem like the arctic... fuk az and its heat..........
Any way you can convert over to E85? It has a much lower flash point than gas and helps the car run cooler. I notice a crazy difference between E85/91 octane when driving my car in the heat.

Either that or purchase a FMIC and see if that makes a difference.
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Going to look into this, no E85 stations near me that I am aware of
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Old Jun 20, 2011 | 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Kyushin
Comptech with alot of SoS upgrades and standalone ecu
can your aftercooler keep up?
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Old Jun 20, 2011 | 05:27 PM
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Had a recent retune because I was pinging and power went way the hell down.

Dyno showed 8.8lbs and only 310Rwhp, Tony said he had to remove alot of timing due to knock. Trying to figure out where the hell all my power went to, it was @ 350 last time with the exact same setup, I dont get it. Main difference now is that its summer and hot as hell out, im sure I had a huge deal of heat soak due to driving in morning rush hour traffic to get to UMS and it was a very warm day out, but to lose that much power?

Currently running the Novi 1200 with a 4.4'' pulley registering @ 8.8lbs ID 725 injectors and Kpro. I want to put in the 4.2'' pulley but not until things get sorted out here.

Any suggestions or is this normal with the shift in heat? Seems I lost most of the power due to timing being taken out due to knock... Plugs are good, I just changed them out after the dyno and they all looked healthy.

I was hoping to hit 400 with the new pulley but FFS I gotta find out why I took this dip
Maybe it's time for e85???
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Old Jun 20, 2011 | 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by donaldmejr
Originally Posted by Kyushin' timestamp='1308611195' post='20702300
Comptech with alot of SoS upgrades and standalone ecu
can your aftercooler keep up?
I hope so, but it does tend to suffer alot of heat soak during the summer. I have seen CT dudes running much more boost than I, but the main difference is fuel... only 91 piss water here >< I am going to look into E85 if and when a station is built around here.
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Old Jun 20, 2011 | 09:52 PM
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You have all the magic factors for power loss. 91octane in the high heat. Sounds like you were heat soaked and then tuned to that, chances are its an extreme situation and not the conditions which you encounter most of the year during spirited driving, better to be safe though. A good water/meth kit would do wonders for you.

At the very least you could boost your octane, run a gal or two of meth or alcohol in the gas tank. You likely only need to boost it a few points to prevent detonation where you were timed to before, in the higher heat. I think Joeyballs figured out 2 gal of Toluene from Home Depot to a full tank was worth 99 octane. But that's adding $30 to a tank of gas. Try one, or hell even dumping in a 4 pack of HEAT which is pure meth. $1.37 for one 12oz bottle. 93-94 oct would be an improvement.
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Originally Posted by Kyushin
Originally Posted by donaldmejr' timestamp='1308612033' post='20702332
[quote name='Kyushin' timestamp='1308611195' post='20702300']
Comptech with alot of SoS upgrades and standalone ecu
can your aftercooler keep up?
I hope so, but it does tend to suffer alot of heat soak during the summer. I have seen CT dudes running much more boost than I, but the main difference is fuel... only 91 piss water here >< I am going to look into E85 if and when a station is built around here.
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Piss water would actually help you
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Old Jun 20, 2011 | 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by s2000Junky
You have all the magic factors for power loss. 91octane in the high heat. Sounds like you were heat soaked and then tuned to that, chances are its an extreme situation and not the conditions which you encounter most of the year during spirited driving, better to be safe though. A good water/meth kit would do wonders for you.

At the very least you could boost your octane, run a gal or two of meth or alcohol in the gas tank. You likely only need to boost it a few points to prevent detonation where you were timed to before, in the higher heat. I think Joeyballs figured out 2 gal of Toluene from Home Depot to a full tank was worth 99 octane. But that's adding $30 to a tank of gas. Try one, or hell even dumping in a 4 pack of HEAT which is pure meth. $1.37 for one 12oz bottle. 93-94 oct would be an improvement.
Damn you hit it spot on there Junkey! Im alittle moody and my 1/4 jewish blood is kicking in so im in a phase where I dont wana spend any cash right now... but that will change shortly and ill do something extreme for moar power. Already got the 4.2'' pulley good for 11.5 psi, where do you think ID 725s will be good till?

FF header and berk HFC are next on the list, might as well do them all at once.

So no real way to control heat soak in the engine bay to the aftercooler? Are those thermal coatings worth anything or a waste?
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