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Old Nov 9, 2010 | 07:36 AM
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I tried emailing Vortech with no answer. So I figured I would get a better response through the forums, and also different opinions.


I have a Vortech V2 w/ a FMIC (no after cooler) that was taken off a 2001 Ap1. My s2000 is a ap2 2005. I have no stand-alone currently but was planning on getting one further down the road. I just want to get the kit on first. Questions below....

1. What do I need to buy to make this kit work for my year
2. What pulley/belt do I need (since the FMIC loses 3-4 psi; the pulley I have is a 5" 6 rib, roughly 7 (?) PSI. So with the FMIC it would be about 4 PSI )


I think that is all my current questions
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Old Nov 9, 2010 | 08:17 AM
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a 5" pulley will net you 6psi for an AP2. what kind of tuning device do you currently have? black box? emanage? vafc?

1. base kits come with a black box and an additional injector (but seeing you don't have the aftercooler where the 5th injector goes, that won't help)

2. i suggest getting a 3.8" ~ 4" pulley.

just remember the more boost you make the more important tuning is.

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https://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.php?showt...0&#entry5886738
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Old Nov 9, 2010 | 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by K-Lo,Nov 9 2010, 09:17 AM
a 5" pulley will net you 6psi for an AP2. what kind of tuning device do you currently have? black box? emanage? vafc?

1. base kits come with a black box and an additional injector (but seeing you don't have the aftercooler where the 5th injector goes, that won't help)

2. i suggest getting a 3.8" ~ 4" pulley.

just remember the more boost you make the more important tuning is.

please read this
https://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.php?showt...0&#entry5886738
I'm going to be using the piggyback they send with the kit. Would I have to get that tuned or is it just PnP ? I have an Emanage Ultimate but was planning on selling it...should I just keep it and tune with that instead?


I am just trying to get 6-7 Psi for the time being, and after I get a stand alone up the boost. The chart is confusing me. You say get a 3.8" pulley? Chart says thats for 9k RPM....mines a 8200 RPM, so shouldn't I get a 3.5?


This is where I'm currently at


http://www.vortechsuperchargers.com/view.php?pcat=6


For some reason I don't see any option for our car for a supercharger belt
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Old Nov 9, 2010 | 09:42 AM
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what injectors do you have?

3.5" @ 8200 rpm is good for 13.5lbs that's the ceiling of an emanage ultimate's safe tune. AFAIK you'll also need a different belt if you go with a 3.5" pulley.
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Old Nov 9, 2010 | 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by K-Lo,Nov 9 2010, 10:42 AM
what injectors do you have?

3.5" @ 8200 rpm is good for 13.5lbs that's the ceiling of an emanage ultimate's safe tune. AFAIK you'll also need a different belt if you go with a 3.5" pulley.
I have stock injectors on and was planning on getting it installed with the FMU, stock injectors, fuel pump, 5" 6 Rib stock pulley, and the vortech piggyback; and driving the car to Ptuning to get tuned with IP 675cc injectors, the smaller 3.5" pulley, tuned on EMU. Supposedly Toan or something knows EMU a lot says the locals here.


13.5LBS of boost for the 3.5"?? That's a lot of boost, I wasn't really planning on going that high up, was planning on below 8psi....maybe 9 tops. This car is a DD and I need to run my stock clutch for a while..


Can you link me to a correct belt?
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Old Nov 9, 2010 | 11:14 AM
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[QUOTE=Angerman,Nov 9 2010, 01:11 PM] I'm going to be using the piggyback they send with the kit.
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Old Nov 9, 2010 | 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by stack,Nov 9 2010, 12:14 PM
I believe that the black box maybe different from AP1 kits to AP2. You should verify this with Vortech. Here is the installation manual.

http://www.vortechsuperchargers.com/downlo...020-010v4.0.pdf

There are parts lists for each year.

My guess is the Vortech black box that you have won't work for your setup. If you already have the Greddy EMU and harness you may want to just consider using it.
Am I going to be able to drive the car to Ptuning without the black box?
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Old Nov 9, 2010 | 12:22 PM
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With the Vortech kit their are two "boxes". One is the MAP clamp. The other is the timing box. All the timing box does is pull a certain amount of timing based on boost & RPM, but it is essential if you are going into boost. Also essential is the FMU(rising rate fuel pressure regulator) with out this installed you will run dangerously lean if you enter boost.

How far is your drive to get tuned? Would it be possible to remove the S/C belt for you trip, then re-install once you are a the tuner? That is your safest option.

Your next option would be to simply stay out of boost. If you go this route and accidentally hit boost without the MAP clamp your car will throw a CEL and possibly go into limp mode.

If you decide to connect both the FMU, MAP clamp, and the timing box for your trip to the tuner you still need to drive conservatively and stay out of boost since your timing box is not the correct one for your setup.
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Old Nov 9, 2010 | 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by K-Lo,Nov 9 2010, 12:42 PM
3.5" @ 8200 rpm is good for 13.5lbs that's the ceiling of an emanage ultimate's safe tune.
I didn't think EMU had a ceiling. I would be more concerned with the tune being spot on for that amount of boost and stock CR.

Angerman,

I would keep the EMU and use that as the tuning solution. You would not need a "Black Box" in that case. The EMU is a far superior tuning solution vs. the Vortech black box.
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Old Nov 9, 2010 | 01:15 PM
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[QUOTE=stack,Nov 9 2010, 01:22 PM] With the Vortech kit their are two "boxes".
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