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Your failure doesn't implicate an impossibility... Narrow minded ignorant children.

This is the data log from run 7 on 11 Sep 10 while I was tuning this car.

I can provide comparable dyno runs to indicate the normalcy for how this dyno reads, if needs be.

The world is flat... please.

 

Same..

I had that exact same setup -

Full Race Kit, GT35R, 1000cc Injectors, Walbro 255 and custom 3" Exhaust.

Made 482WHP @ 14psi on 91 octane & 381TQ. Stock F22 motor.

Your dyno is not accurate. Your graph is off by 100HP...OR, you are running over 13psi


Your kit nothing different than my setup, doesn't make 100 more HP

 

Oh ok cool. So this bolton AP2 is really only making 110whp and the Comptech AP1 is only making 250...




You guys are pathetic. Let's hears some more.

 

Ok, so before we start down the inflated dyno road. Here's just a few examples of some bolt on or bone stock S2000's on this same dyno...



Accept it. Any intelligent explanations for why this car is making the power it is?

 

Not questioning the dyno numbers, but I'm curious on which MAP sensor the OP used for his car, and how the map sensor was setup in the Kmanager. I remember when I got my SoS 3bar instead of the Hondata 4bar, my Boost readings from Kpro was slightly off compared to my mechanical boost gauge even though I choose to use the generic 3 bar sensor that was already provided in Kpro. It wasn't until I got the exact settings from SoS to input in the Kmanager my boost level finally matched up.

 

No that's correctly setup as well.


From SoS's site http://www.scienceofspeed.com/products/eng...or/00-05_S2000/

 

The SAE correction factor for altitude is not the correct formula for forced induction cars; it is correct for NA cars.

For forced induction cars, the SAE correction will over inflate the numbers.

But really? Who gives a f*** what the numbers are? If the car drives well, then that's all that matters.

 

you sure are an arrogant tool.

other people with this same exact kit and tuned by jeff evans are seeing 100whp less than this!

so what the hell does that tell you?

it tells me that there is a skew taking place as the hp climbs. that would allow for it to be moderately close on lower hp and start becoming absurd as the numbers rose.

ive personally seen how this can happen on a Dynojet. a Mazda Rx7 with a street ported 13b, AFC for tuning, and a 60-1 turbo with on-center .83 T4 + goodies netted 458whp @ 14psi.... only the numbers were climbing at a rate higher than 1:1 and when the car was taken across town to a mustang dyno, the car made 378whp THAT EXACT SAME DAY, only a matter of hours later. truth of the matter is; the owner of the dyno knew it was happening and allowed it to continue because people were getting all riled up and hailing him as a building/tuning master. taking false credit is shameful.

so, just because the calibrations may line up on the ecu and the car responds, that doesnt mean there isnt something that had gone bananas with the dyno's torque/load system of measure because thats just crazy.

http://www.full-race.com/catalog/product_i...roducts_id=2163

^here is a link to the full race site. scroll down and see what the best numbers produced for this setup are
"Full Race GT3582R turbo kit, stock 2.0L w/ 3mm HG, tuning at 13 psi(470/300) and 19 psi(580/370) on 93 octane."

and also note the "stock F22 with the 3076 running 17psi and 93 oct made 535/400".

so, proof is in the facts dude.

 

I would LOVE to think I could make that kind of power also but there is just no way.

There are a few points to consider that I have noticed that you should look at.

(1) MAP calibration - I am a Mechanical Engineer and we provide pressure transducers that cost 10 times what an aftermarket sensor sells for and they still need to be calibrated on at minimum an annual basis or if you are like me an anal basis . So even though you have the "Correct" calibration from SOS unless you have a factory calibration sheet or you have tested it yourself, it is likely to diverge from the expected, which is exactly what I found with my Omni.

(2) Dyno Chart Divergence - If you look at your dyno the torque curves should all converge back to the same level as there is NO way that you could be boosting at at low RPM. Based on a ruff guess from your plot the dyno was reading approximately 100 Ftlb of torque greater at the low-end in the newest run vs yours. If you take 50-75 FTLB of torque off, though being a 2.2L it should be around to 5-10% more torque on the lowend, if your peak and recalculate using

HP = TQ * RPM / 5252

Then you will arrive at a power level on par with the other cars out there which is still FANTASTIC.


Congratulations on the successful build and a sweet looking new ride.

 

Yea that stock f22 is me, it has a 3mm hg, so not so stock