SOT SC kit with too much boost
yeah man, this makes no sense at all. so you have a boost gauge reading off the mani, and the map sensor and they both say 10-11. very weird. i mean stock exhaust had me about 1psi higher, but your way higher.
def get it on the dyno. make sure the crank pullley is correct dia too. i know it sounds weird, but if that was wrong dia, then everything else would spin differently. worth a check. stock oem crank pulley is about 139mm. worth a check cuase this would also influence boost. good luck and get that beast dyno'd.
def get it on the dyno. make sure the crank pullley is correct dia too. i know it sounds weird, but if that was wrong dia, then everything else would spin differently. worth a check. stock oem crank pulley is about 139mm. worth a check cuase this would also influence boost. good luck and get that beast dyno'd.
Originally Posted by timg,Mar 17 2009, 07:18 AM
What sort of boost gauge are you using? I've seen 2-3 psi difference between various gauges and sensors.
Tim
Tim
OEM MAP sensor and a Zeitronix MAP
With the OEM MAP sensor I can only see when logging data on my laptop. The boost gage is Zeitronix (with Kavlico sensor) and it has a peak hold feature so I can check peak boost any time I want. The Zeitronix boost gage and Kavlico boost sensor are sold together by Zeitronix so they are calibrated for each other.
I have made a bunch of logging runs where I compared the OEM MAP logged results to the peak on the Zeitronix. They have always been within 0.3 psi of each other. The OEM MAP boost graphs were originally very erratic until I replumbed the line to the sensor which smoothed the graphs dramatically.
When I first got the SOT kit I only had the OEM MAP sensor. My first boosted runs logged higher boost than expected so I assumed the OEM MAP sensor was miscalibrated at positive boost pressures. Later I got the Zeitronix boost gage/sensor but it gave the same boost results as the OEM MAP. I have always been surprised at how close the two boost sensors compare to each other.
Both sensors tap in at the same point at the dummy throttle body just before the intake mainfold.
I have made a bunch of logging runs where I compared the OEM MAP logged results to the peak on the Zeitronix. They have always been within 0.3 psi of each other. The OEM MAP boost graphs were originally very erratic until I replumbed the line to the sensor which smoothed the graphs dramatically.
When I first got the SOT kit I only had the OEM MAP sensor. My first boosted runs logged higher boost than expected so I assumed the OEM MAP sensor was miscalibrated at positive boost pressures. Later I got the Zeitronix boost gage/sensor but it gave the same boost results as the OEM MAP. I have always been surprised at how close the two boost sensors compare to each other.
Both sensors tap in at the same point at the dummy throttle body just before the intake mainfold.
Just to resurrect this thread, I finally looked at my boost guage after a week of driving. I have a peak hold feture and after a couple hard runs I saw a peak of 8.7 psi. This is one the stock pulley (6 psi) that came with the kit.
We are both AP1, the differences qwe may have are I have the Moss manifold and high flow cat from berk. Just venturing a guess that the AP1 stock exhaust setup is too restrictive and causes higher boost pressure. WLAURENT has an aftermarket exhaust. I will probably go Mugen in the future (but not until next year) and I would bet that would bring my boost down. Car runs flawlessly though.
We are both AP1, the differences qwe may have are I have the Moss manifold and high flow cat from berk. Just venturing a guess that the AP1 stock exhaust setup is too restrictive and causes higher boost pressure. WLAURENT has an aftermarket exhaust. I will probably go Mugen in the future (but not until next year) and I would bet that would bring my boost down. Car runs flawlessly though.
Originally Posted by neptuner,Mar 13 2009, 11:32 AM
As far as I can see there is no reason for my SC to generate more boost that any other SOT SC. What I think is happening is that there is some type of restriction downstream from the MAP/Zeitronix sensor location that is choking flow and raising boost. I am running OEM header, a 63mm Invidia test pipe and a 70 mm Invidia single so I do not think the exhaust is the problem.
If there is a restriction, I would like to fix it so the boost is not higher than it needs to be for normal flow.
Does anyone have an idea as to what might be causing the higher boost?
The car runs just fine, although I would like to see that number drop. Most of the time when I hit it, it climbs to low 7psi range and then can spike on a down shift and a hammered throttle. Highest boost I think is in first gear (although I never have enough room most of the time to really run 2nd or 3rd that often)
I am reading boost at the dummy throttle body. The only difference between AP1 and 2 downstream is what , cams, header and compression?
Just went to burn in the Fuji a little more. A couple hard pulls, 11.2 peak boost. Stumped.
Think the Fujitsubo is gonna be too loud for me too.
Second exhaust installed and probably put up for sale within a week. Fool me twice shame on me.
Think the Fujitsubo is gonna be too loud for me too.
Second exhaust installed and probably put up for sale within a week. Fool me twice shame on me.
what is the dim on the Fuji.
Intresting read and study on exhaust diams..
https://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=710752
Intresting read and study on exhaust diams..
https://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=710752







