Trying to pass inspection
Since my inspection is up, I would like to pass it so I don't potentially get harassed for the next few years. Granted I don't drive the car much but I would rather pass then not pass.
Now the problem is that I have an AEM EMS so that's an instant fail. I could just put my stock ECU back on but the problem is that I have a resistor box for my larger injectors wired in and I also have a headgasket so I can guarantee those items will throw a code + I'm missing the stupid emissions pump thing (though I can reinstall that temporarily).
I'm thinking the easiest course of action would be to unhook the turbo inlet pipe from the TB, attach a filter (so the car is technically NA now), and just get a emanage blue to control the injectors / 3mm headgasket so they won't throw a code just long enough to be able to plug the car into the state computer for inspection (along with paying a couple bucks to ignore the turbo + cats)
Would this work? Any other ideas? Its getting hard to find a place that will hook up another car and give me their sticker + I heard in NY soon you won't be able to register your vehicle unless you have a valid inspection sticker for that VIN number.
Now the problem is that I have an AEM EMS so that's an instant fail. I could just put my stock ECU back on but the problem is that I have a resistor box for my larger injectors wired in and I also have a headgasket so I can guarantee those items will throw a code + I'm missing the stupid emissions pump thing (though I can reinstall that temporarily).
I'm thinking the easiest course of action would be to unhook the turbo inlet pipe from the TB, attach a filter (so the car is technically NA now), and just get a emanage blue to control the injectors / 3mm headgasket so they won't throw a code just long enough to be able to plug the car into the state computer for inspection (along with paying a couple bucks to ignore the turbo + cats)
Would this work? Any other ideas? Its getting hard to find a place that will hook up another car and give me their sticker + I heard in NY soon you won't be able to register your vehicle unless you have a valid inspection sticker for that VIN number.
Originally Posted by Spec_Ops2087,Mar 3 2009, 10:16 AM
(along with paying a couple bucks to ignore the turbo + cats)
If you can't find a shop you can pay off, your emanage blue idea sounds like it could work.
They won't see your turbo; they might see the absence of the cat as I've seen them use a mirror to look under the car. However, you can always put a cat in just for the inspection or place the cat cover around the exhaust. Or, you could just hope the tester doesn't notice.
They won't see your turbo; they might see the absence of the cat as I've seen them use a mirror to look under the car. However, you can always put a cat in just for the inspection or place the cat cover around the exhaust. Or, you could just hope the tester doesn't notice.
Originally Posted by spectacle,Mar 3 2009, 01:44 PM
What all does an inspection involve?
They will do a visual safety inspection to make sure all lights are working. They ensure all the windows operate propertly, that the horn works, and they also test the gas cap to make sure it is not letting vapors escape. Finally, they place this car on some contraption that basically simulates bumpy conditions to see if there is anythong obviously wrong with the suspension/steering. They also do check under the car with a mirror to see if the catalytic converter is there.
The above applies to OBDII cars; pre OBDII get the rollers and a tailpipe sniff test...
As you can see, it's pretty superficial. They don't open the hood so they'll never know the turbo is there. The real problem is the lack of the cat and the AEM EMS/OBDII.
You can fail for non-DOT items, like those small CF mirrors, aftermarket exhausts which the tester feels is too loud, white turn singals, tinted windows, etc...
Sometimes the testers never catch these aftermarket items; it's just the luck of the draw.
Inspection in NJ is also free if you goto one of the state-operated stations. There are certain licensed private facilities that do the inspections as well for a fee. Historically, you'd go to these places if you had a car that had a minor problem that would cause it to fail. Some of these shops would also pass you even if the OBDII didn't work. If you think about it, besides the inconvenience of having to wait at the state-operated station, why even goto a private station? These stations kept the money rolling in by looking the other way...
In the past few years, the state has really cracked down on these shops and many have lost their licenses. Therefore, it is really difficult to find a shop that will pass you, even for illegally tinted front windows let alone lack of OBDII!
Originally Posted by TraviS2000,Mar 3 2009, 01:41 PM
Ummm, if you are already going the $bribe$ route...why not just throw a little more $$ at it and have them ignore the whole inspection and just pass you?
I take it the car has to be started to be checked for codes, which then the bigger injectors will obviously throw the system into a hissy fit.
Could a simple VAFC manipulate the injector pules enough to make it idle decently enough to pass without throwing codes?
Also, why would the HG throw a code?
Could a simple VAFC manipulate the injector pules enough to make it idle decently enough to pass without throwing codes?
Also, why would the HG throw a code?
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Originally Posted by spectacle,Mar 3 2009, 01:54 PM
I take it the car has to be started to be checked for codes then and the bigger injectors will throw a code.
Could a simple VAFC manipulate the injector pules enough to make it idle decently enough to pass without throwing codes?
Also, why would the HG throw a code?
Could a simple VAFC manipulate the injector pules enough to make it idle decently enough to pass without throwing codes?
Also, why would the HG throw a code?
Spec instead of spending the extra money on the VAFC or Eblue and a base tune, why not just spend that money and get the Hondata Kpro and sell the EMS?
I'm sure the EMS has served you very well but the Kpro would at least alleviate your worries about the CELs for as long as you will own the car.
The only downside is that if you want IP to tune it again you'll have to get to VA.
I'm sure the EMS has served you very well but the Kpro would at least alleviate your worries about the CELs for as long as you will own the car.
The only downside is that if you want IP to tune it again you'll have to get to VA.
Originally Posted by devs2k,Mar 3 2009, 10:48 AM
In NJ, where spec and I are from, they will do an OBDII check to make sure there are no codes present.
They will do a visual safety inspection to make sure all lights are working. They ensure all the windows operate propertly, that the horn works, and they also test the gas cap to make sure it is not letting vapors escape. Finally, they place this car on some contraption that basically simulates bumpy conditions to see if there is anythong obviously wrong with the suspension/steering. They also do check under the car with a mirror to see if the catalytic converter is there.
The above applies to OBDII cars; pre OBDII get the rollers and a tailpipe sniff test...
As you can see, it's pretty superficial. They don't open the hood so they'll never know the turbo is there. The real problem is the lack of the cat and the AEM EMS/OBDII.
You can fail for non-DOT items, like those small CF mirrors, aftermarket exhausts which the tester feels is too loud, white turn singals, tinted windows, etc...
Sometimes the testers never catch these aftermarket items; it's just the luck of the draw.
Inspection in NJ is also free if you goto one of the state-operated stations. There are certain licensed private facilities that do the inspections as well for a fee. Historically, you'd go to these places if you had a car that had a minor problem that would cause it to fail. Some of these shops would also pass you even if the OBDII didn't work. If you think about it, besides the inconvenience of having to wait at the state-operated station, why even goto a private station? These stations kept the money rolling in by looking the other way...
In the past few years, the state has really cracked down on these shops and many have lost their licenses. Therefore, it is really difficult to find a shop that will pass you, even for illegally tinted front windows let alone lack of OBDII!
They will do a visual safety inspection to make sure all lights are working. They ensure all the windows operate propertly, that the horn works, and they also test the gas cap to make sure it is not letting vapors escape. Finally, they place this car on some contraption that basically simulates bumpy conditions to see if there is anythong obviously wrong with the suspension/steering. They also do check under the car with a mirror to see if the catalytic converter is there.
The above applies to OBDII cars; pre OBDII get the rollers and a tailpipe sniff test...
As you can see, it's pretty superficial. They don't open the hood so they'll never know the turbo is there. The real problem is the lack of the cat and the AEM EMS/OBDII.
You can fail for non-DOT items, like those small CF mirrors, aftermarket exhausts which the tester feels is too loud, white turn singals, tinted windows, etc...
Sometimes the testers never catch these aftermarket items; it's just the luck of the draw.
Inspection in NJ is also free if you goto one of the state-operated stations. There are certain licensed private facilities that do the inspections as well for a fee. Historically, you'd go to these places if you had a car that had a minor problem that would cause it to fail. Some of these shops would also pass you even if the OBDII didn't work. If you think about it, besides the inconvenience of having to wait at the state-operated station, why even goto a private station? These stations kept the money rolling in by looking the other way...
In the past few years, the state has really cracked down on these shops and many have lost their licenses. Therefore, it is really difficult to find a shop that will pass you, even for illegally tinted front windows let alone lack of OBDII!



