itb turbo would be sick

 

With minimal lag of this remote system (assuming properley designed) and the ITBs the throttel response would be

 

believe it or not I am actually considering doing this system I have gotten tired of waiting on the BRP and the AFSC (axial flow supercharger ) to come into full production units.

After talking to the VP of STS today these guys really do know what they are talking about.

FYI they do have a single remote installed on a S.

I have asked for pictures and numbers I will relay that info as soon as I get them.

I am looking at there Twin turbo setup for mine.

How cool would it be to be able to say I have a "TWIN TURBO" S.

 

HAve been chatting with them also. May be taking a trip to Utah or Orange County in the near future.

 

only thing i dont like is how the air filter is back there sucking in crap

 

If this is so good then why don't Auto manufacturers do this? Why doesn't anyone in the import/domestic NHRA do this? Because it's not as good as having the turbo just off the header. You need HEAT to make the turbo efficient.

 

heat is not what makes a turbo spool it is the pressure differtinal, flow rate and the design of the turbo AR and trim ratios.

KEY POINT HERE
The reason the STS systems do perform is the fact there is a very specific turbo selection that goes on to account for the different exhaust flow dynamics when placed at the muffler. they even stated that if in the case of the S if the turbo(s) were placed in the location where the resonator is (assuming enough area ) the turbo selection there would even be different then if they were place at the mufflers.
KEY POINT HERE

This is what I discussed with the VP the other day.

And heat kills efficiency when looking at only the turbo (system boundary only encompasses the turbo and nothing else) more heat transfer from the exhaust side to the compressor side = less mass flow rate

When turbos first came out to replace superchargers/positive displacement pumps everybody said it would not work now look at how much everybody loves and praises conventional turbos.
Just because its never been tried/ not a lot of people doing it yet does not mean it wont work.


The reason manufactures have not starting doing this is it is simpler to place the turbo in the engine bay when you are designing a car from scrap; considerable less parts to integrate and install when the turbo is placed under the hood.


Its very simple more air mass flow and more fuel = more power not madder how you get the increased flow rate (supercharger, conventional turbo, or a RMT).

Lets not get into a childish it will/it wont work.
We need some one to chime in that can post actual numbers and calculations why or why not these system will or wont work; this is value added to the community everything else is just opinion and may or may not be based in factual numbers.

Assuming the numbers/dyno graphs posted on STS are factual it has proven that there system do perform on the vehicles they have with there designed parameters.

 

If you size the turbo for the cooler air then you can get just as quick a spool up. (FYI it ain't the heat that turns the turbo it is the movement of the air) According to them the long piping takes the place of the intercooler so doesn't really add all that much throttled air space.

Rain doesn't seem to be much of an issue with the sytems, but deep standing water would be.

Less heat in the system adds up to longer life.

The only ones I have driven with the system are V8s and they are phenomenal!!

And then there is the stealth factor.

 

pics of the single setup please

 

as soon as STS sends me picture of the single on the S I will up load them.