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Old Jul 12, 2013 | 07:32 AM
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I just couldn't believe he was lashing out at me. Did I go a bit overboard with my replies? Probably, but I'm not the "professional"<-- used VERY lightly.


Now don't get me wrong, I am by no means a "tuner" but I do have a very solid understanding of EFI and have street tuned multiple personal/friends vehicles. Difference is, I'm not running around boasting how I can tune cars in my sleep/eyes closed or whatever jargon it was that he used.

Guys like Evans, Xenocron, Tony Palo have customers backed up waiting on tunes for months, and you'd never catch a single one of them being anything but modest.
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Old Jul 12, 2013 | 07:45 AM
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Originally Posted by sohc_mshue
That is one thing that I think AEM seriously needs to look into fixing. Anytime the map sensor is changed it sets the boost cut to the max pressure of the sensor. I'm guessing he most likely was not familiar with this ecu, changed the map cal, and forgot to set boost cut.

In your sig, what fuel pump did you max out?
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Old Jul 12, 2013 | 02:42 PM
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cylinder walls are oval'd out

which is?

too retarded timing causing EGT'S to rise? or too lean condition causing EGT's to rise? or too advanced timing. the timing is definitely not too retarded. and "AFR's were spot on"

i was just having another conversation with a local aem licensed tuner and it went as followed:

him: well it's not 20 degrees too high under load but it is considerably higher than the turbo s2000s I have tuned with AEM ems. What fuel was this on?
I have no way to know how rich or lean the car was running from the map. Do you have a log?

me: 93oct. he never used aemlog
previous pull before it blew was at 470hp @ 14psi

him: Nobody took logs? How were they seeing what was going on?

me: that is what i said. apparently the method was "do a bunch of pulls and then check the plugs"

him:I don't really know what to say to that.

me: Yeah I'm at a loss here. Loss of motor and words Lol

him: Sorry to heat it man.
Hear* it
Those engines can take a lot. It takes a lot to hurt one

me: and the motor ran great before going to the tune no leaks, no compression problems, no burning oil . for a honda that's quite a feat Lol
i am going to take apart the engine this weekend. is there anything i should look for? the cylinder walls have dime sized divets in them on the exhaust side but thats the only thing that is visible from the top. and the piston is kind of melted

him: That makes sense considering the timing being high under load
The block may be ovaled
Head may be cracked. Will have to check around the valve seats and check guides in case they cracked or pinched

me:the cylinder walls seem kind of ovaled but i was unsure if that was just how they looked

him: If you can see by eye the block is garbage. Even when pretty bad you can't see by eye


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Old Jul 14, 2013 | 10:47 AM
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Yesterday i texted him saying i will be taking him to small claims court for the cost of an oem honda shortblock and a tune. i offered an alternative payment solution out of court which was the price of a used shortblock and a tune.

basically he crapped his pants. then he started getting really attitudey towards me. then he said he could refund me money for the tune. i told him i'd give him 14 days to come up with the money or a suit will be filed.

he then thought this was extortion or something LOL. Legally i have to offer him a payment solution outside of court for the damages prior to filing. he told me he'd rather pay his lawyer 1000 bucks and basically told me to kiss dirt.

what's great is last night he posted a thread in his advertising section about no longer offering ANY services to anyone. i woke up at about 6am this morning and the thread was still there. i had to get ready to go out golfing and when i went onto tapatalk the thread was GONE. Also the "drama" thread i linked you guys to is GONE. One of his moderator friends must have thought they were sly in deleting the thread or moving it from public view where i cannot read it or take any evidence from?

So not only did he do this, but someone is also trying to hide evidence from this matter where he admitted to doing everything he is being accused of. luckily i have all of these screen shots saved on my phone, my desktop and my picture hosting sites.


what do you guys think i should do here? i can basically prove everything myself and im not hiring a lawyer because its just small claims. if he wants to hire a lawyer that has no clue about any of this stuff he can go for it.


Basically what i have is:

copy of tune
copy of basemap
copy of supercharger map he said he used
screen shots of texts, screen shots of forum posts, screen shots of advertising as a business under his username, screen shots of admitting he did the tune, screen shots that i paid for the tune, screen shots of the date of the tune, copy of tow from AAA from his shop address to my garage address
cylinder walls are egged/oval'd out, piston is melted, top connecting rod bearing is fubar'd, piston walls are melted. i am thinking taking pictures of this, bringing oem bearings in package to court. picture of measurement of cylinders compared to FSM specs with copy of FSM spec sheet.

should i bring in professionals? should i have an engine builder with a real business come in and speak to confirm what this all means? should i bring in someone who is licensed certified for AEM ?

what do you guys think? do i even need to do all of this stuff?
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Old Jul 14, 2013 | 11:29 AM
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Too many variables. Personally, I would just take it as a learning experience and move on. Go with the right tuner next time.
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Old Jul 14, 2013 | 01:13 PM
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Lets say you win and the judgement is in your favor. How are you going to collect? He can just deny payment at which point your best bet would be to sell the money's owed to you to a collection agency; aka assignment of judgement, at which point you will get PENNIES on the dollar. Of course his credit rating will always be hit until he pays.
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Old Jul 14, 2013 | 01:30 PM
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It melted a line causing it to break you acknowledged that.

Then decided to drive it some more while it was hurt.

Now you're changing the story to get someone else to pay for it?
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Old Jul 14, 2013 | 01:36 PM
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It melted a line. Did this cause it to break ? He stated he put the line on and change the fittings. He told me to drive it around. He said this via text.
I was also just restating things that he said in another thread. Since you only have 2 posts I will assume that you are from another forum here to troll
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Old Jul 14, 2013 | 01:45 PM
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It's just odd you explained why it blew up before and why boost cut wasn't set.

Then found out how much a rebuild will cost now you're blaming everyone else.
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Old Jul 14, 2013 | 01:51 PM
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Or when I took apart my motor and saw what happened and then looked at everything else and looked at my tune and connected everything together I realized what happened. Did it ever occur to you that he told me the wastegate line melting was a cover up for what happened ? That he had no idea what he was doing? That the wastegate line was to blame because he didnt set boost cut ? Do you read anything before you post ?

I really dont care how much a rebuild costs. If it was $5 or 5 million dollars. Do you think money is an issue here ? Or the fact some retard pretending to run a business told me could offer a service, failed to complete the service and destroyed property in the process all while charging me for it? Do you not understand what is going on ?
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