Found J's replica full kit!
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Originally Posted by esracer,Jun 15 2008, 08:08 PM
This is all ridiculous, people have different priorities, please forgive me for running rotas as my daily driver rims, so that I can afford to run racing slicks on my oems for autox. Yeah bring your super duper jdm wheels or whatever on street tires and watch me have a 2-5 second advantage over you. I'll just laugh if you say something well i'm more of a s2000 owner because i have works or volks.
And yes I also have a replica asm bumper, but you know what it fits perfect, it's a flexible type of fiber glass and looks good, after mowing down cones here and there, i dont' give a ****, cause i didn't pay out the ass for it.
And yes I also have a replica asm bumper, but you know what it fits perfect, it's a flexible type of fiber glass and looks good, after mowing down cones here and there, i dont' give a ****, cause i didn't pay out the ass for it.
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[QUOTE=JRSC EM1,Jun 15 2008, 12:29 PM] Every time I read your argument about getting ripped of by Japanese companies I cant help but laugh at your avatar... JDM as ****, huh?
Ripping people off ?! Yeah, not really. They need to turn a profit in order to stay afloat and they also have to develop the parts and SPEND MONEY to do so. Its not like the products they are creating just make and design themselves. That occurs only for the knock off companies. The companies also do wind tunnel testing, track testing and maybe even competing in races with the product. Oh, I forgot all that is free too. The option shouldnt be there to get the knock offs. You should either have to spend the money to get the product or not be able to get it at all.
I dont give a shit if there is the possibility that there may be damage to the part. You have go to pay to play as the other poster above has stated.
I agree .
Ripping people off ?! Yeah, not really. They need to turn a profit in order to stay afloat and they also have to develop the parts and SPEND MONEY to do so. Its not like the products they are creating just make and design themselves. That occurs only for the knock off companies. The companies also do wind tunnel testing, track testing and maybe even competing in races with the product. Oh, I forgot all that is free too. The option shouldnt be there to get the knock offs. You should either have to spend the money to get the product or not be able to get it at all.
I dont give a shit if there is the possibility that there may be damage to the part. You have go to pay to play as the other poster above has stated.
I agree .
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Originally Posted by JRSC EM1,Jun 15 2008, 10:03 PM
Uhhhh, the Works arent even on my S2000, they are on one of my other cars... Good for you for having "different priorities" but you shouldnt be able to get a copy of a product for a lesser price. It has nothing to do with being more or less of an owner of a certain type of car and I never said that. It has EVERYTHING to do with theft of anothers ideas, products and hard work. ITS THEFT!
That bumper looks great.
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who really cares? is it really affecting any of you? this is always going to happen no matter what industry. and there has never been anything wrong with a company making the same thing for cheaper. im assuming you jdmboys research every product u buy to make sure that the company your buying from was the original? f*** that! heres an idea. cover your eyes pretend it isnt there and stop bitching. its life.
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This debate is so freaking tired. No one on either side will ever change their minds about the topic so it just gets into bashing.
PERSONALLY, I prefer authentic parts. I have a replica Amuse front because my J's lip was destroyed and I needed a replacement. Fitment seemed decent and I didn't want to chance breaking another expensive piece on the front of my car. Simple as that.
In a perfect world I'd have a real Amuse bumper, but I would rather get these parts and be able to eat well, go out with friends, and in general live a life that I enjoy (other hobbies etc). I know I could have saved another 6 months to a year and gone with authentic Amuse. But I didn't, I chose to save money and put it into new furniture for my new townhouse, paying down my CC debt, and having some fun with friends.
I don't care if you're a authentic purist or rockin fake kits, rotas, or whatever. So long as you're personally happy with your car, what does it really matter? Yes, companies put money into R&D to make their products, but that doesn't mean they need to cost an arm and a leg. Greg over at GT Motoring is developing some sick parts for our cars (I'm sure he'll be posting about them soon) and from my conversations with him, the prices are fairly reasonable. He's a small business and researching all of the parts himself.
Oh, and J's Racing doesn't design ALL of their parts, their hoods and diffuser are made by First Molding in Japan.
But, as I stated first, the debate is meaningless. Yes, fake parts do effect the real manufacturers numbers, but it doesn't seem to be hurting them all too bad. I'm really happy to see some companies take it upon themselves to develop some cool stuff for the s2000 and at the same time keep the prices reasonable, Password JDM has some exciting stuff coming out and I know GT Motoring has some really sweet stuff in the works. We're currently in a GREAT time to own an s2000 IMO, tons of aftermarket support already out and some companies stepping up and creating even more for us to choose from.
PERSONALLY, I prefer authentic parts. I have a replica Amuse front because my J's lip was destroyed and I needed a replacement. Fitment seemed decent and I didn't want to chance breaking another expensive piece on the front of my car. Simple as that.
In a perfect world I'd have a real Amuse bumper, but I would rather get these parts and be able to eat well, go out with friends, and in general live a life that I enjoy (other hobbies etc). I know I could have saved another 6 months to a year and gone with authentic Amuse. But I didn't, I chose to save money and put it into new furniture for my new townhouse, paying down my CC debt, and having some fun with friends.
I don't care if you're a authentic purist or rockin fake kits, rotas, or whatever. So long as you're personally happy with your car, what does it really matter? Yes, companies put money into R&D to make their products, but that doesn't mean they need to cost an arm and a leg. Greg over at GT Motoring is developing some sick parts for our cars (I'm sure he'll be posting about them soon) and from my conversations with him, the prices are fairly reasonable. He's a small business and researching all of the parts himself.
Oh, and J's Racing doesn't design ALL of their parts, their hoods and diffuser are made by First Molding in Japan.
But, as I stated first, the debate is meaningless. Yes, fake parts do effect the real manufacturers numbers, but it doesn't seem to be hurting them all too bad. I'm really happy to see some companies take it upon themselves to develop some cool stuff for the s2000 and at the same time keep the prices reasonable, Password JDM has some exciting stuff coming out and I know GT Motoring has some really sweet stuff in the works. We're currently in a GREAT time to own an s2000 IMO, tons of aftermarket support already out and some companies stepping up and creating even more for us to choose from.
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Originally Posted by VeilSide AP1,Jun 15 2008, 08:31 PM
Hardly hurt the industry? HA! are you serious? We sound silly? Pfft! The Japanese manufacturers are losing customers? what are you in the Japanese sensus bureu. All these companies that are making money off of knock offs from other companies are eating up 25% of the real manufacturers earnings and clientel and at times it can even go upto 50% of it(This all being a guestimate of what ive been told). Next thing you know the company goes under due to the fact of these replicating PARASITES that feed of their work in the R&D field and the time and sacrifice they put into making their parts.
Tariffs, Import and frieght charges dosnt have anything to do with it, im in the Import/Export, Freight Forwarding industry and let me tell you thats grade a BS the costs are not that high on getting parts over here so spare me that.
Tariffs, Import and frieght charges dosnt have anything to do with it, im in the Import/Export, Freight Forwarding industry and let me tell you thats grade a BS the costs are not that high on getting parts over here so spare me that.
I had no idea that 25-50% of these companies business was done in the U.S. and furthermore that replica manufacturers were taking all of it. It is my understanding that these companies do the large majority of their business in Japan and the U.S. is merely a secondary market for their products (a growing market, but not their concentration) and not their primary source of revenue.
Clearly you are very passionate about these manufacturers... or is it that you just like to play "who has the bigger stick" with forum goers? You are making this way too personal.
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Originally Posted by Ouhei,Jun 16 2008, 07:58 AM
This debate is so freaking tired. No one on either side will ever change their minds about the topic so it just gets into bashing.
PERSONALLY, I prefer authentic parts. I have a replica Amuse front because my J's lip was destroyed and I needed a replacement. Fitment seemed decent and I didn't want to chance breaking another expensive piece on the front of my car. Simple as that.
In a perfect world I'd have a real Amuse bumper, but I would rather get these parts and be able to eat well, go out with friends, and in general live a life that I enjoy (other hobbies etc). I know I could have saved another 6 months to a year and gone with authentic Amuse. But I didn't, I chose to save money and put it into new furniture for my new townhouse, paying down my CC debt, and having some fun with friends.
I don't care if you're a authentic purist or rockin fake kits, rotas, or whatever. So long as you're personally happy with your car, what does it really matter? Yes, companies put money into R&D to make their products, but that doesn't mean they need to cost an arm and a leg. Greg over at GT Motoring is developing some sick parts for our cars (I'm sure he'll be posting about them soon) and from my conversations with him, the prices are fairly reasonable. He's a small business and researching all of the parts himself.
Oh, and J's Racing doesn't design ALL of their parts, their hoods and diffuser are made by First Molding in Japan.
But, as I stated first, the debate is meaningless. Yes, fake parts do effect the real manufacturers numbers, but it doesn't seem to be hurting them all too bad. I'm really happy to see some companies take it upon themselves to develop some cool stuff for the s2000 and at the same time keep the prices reasonable, Password JDM has some exciting stuff coming out and I know GT Motoring has some really sweet stuff in the works. We're currently in a GREAT time to own an s2000 IMO, tons of aftermarket support already out and some companies stepping up and creating even more for us to choose from.
PERSONALLY, I prefer authentic parts. I have a replica Amuse front because my J's lip was destroyed and I needed a replacement. Fitment seemed decent and I didn't want to chance breaking another expensive piece on the front of my car. Simple as that.
In a perfect world I'd have a real Amuse bumper, but I would rather get these parts and be able to eat well, go out with friends, and in general live a life that I enjoy (other hobbies etc). I know I could have saved another 6 months to a year and gone with authentic Amuse. But I didn't, I chose to save money and put it into new furniture for my new townhouse, paying down my CC debt, and having some fun with friends.
I don't care if you're a authentic purist or rockin fake kits, rotas, or whatever. So long as you're personally happy with your car, what does it really matter? Yes, companies put money into R&D to make their products, but that doesn't mean they need to cost an arm and a leg. Greg over at GT Motoring is developing some sick parts for our cars (I'm sure he'll be posting about them soon) and from my conversations with him, the prices are fairly reasonable. He's a small business and researching all of the parts himself.
Oh, and J's Racing doesn't design ALL of their parts, their hoods and diffuser are made by First Molding in Japan.
But, as I stated first, the debate is meaningless. Yes, fake parts do effect the real manufacturers numbers, but it doesn't seem to be hurting them all too bad. I'm really happy to see some companies take it upon themselves to develop some cool stuff for the s2000 and at the same time keep the prices reasonable, Password JDM has some exciting stuff coming out and I know GT Motoring has some really sweet stuff in the works. We're currently in a GREAT time to own an s2000 IMO, tons of aftermarket support already out and some companies stepping up and creating even more for us to choose from.
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Originally Posted by Ouhei,Jun 16 2008, 06:58 AM
This debate is so freaking tired. No one on either side will ever change their minds about the topic so it just gets into bashing.
PERSONALLY, I prefer authentic parts. I have a replica Amuse front because my J's lip was destroyed and I needed a replacement. Fitment seemed decent and I didn't want to chance breaking another expensive piece on the front of my car. Simple as that.
In a perfect world I'd have a real Amuse bumper, but I would rather get these parts and be able to eat well, go out with friends, and in general live a life that I enjoy (other hobbies etc). I know I could have saved another 6 months to a year and gone with authentic Amuse. But I didn't, I chose to save money and put it into new furniture for my new townhouse, paying down my CC debt, and having some fun with friends.
I don't care if you're a authentic purist or rockin fake kits, rotas, or whatever. So long as you're personally happy with your car, what does it really matter? Yes, companies put money into R&D to make their products, but that doesn't mean they need to cost an arm and a leg. Greg over at GT Motoring is developing some sick parts for our cars (I'm sure he'll be posting about them soon) and from my conversations with him, the prices are fairly reasonable. He's a small business and researching all of the parts himself.
Oh, and J's Racing doesn't design ALL of their parts, their hoods and diffuser are made by First Molding in Japan.
But, as I stated first, the debate is meaningless. Yes, fake parts do effect the real manufacturers numbers, but it doesn't seem to be hurting them all too bad. I'm really happy to see some companies take it upon themselves to develop some cool stuff for the s2000 and at the same time keep the prices reasonable, Password JDM has some exciting stuff coming out and I know GT Motoring has some really sweet stuff in the works. We're currently in a GREAT time to own an s2000 IMO, tons of aftermarket support already out and some companies stepping up and creating even more for us to choose from.
PERSONALLY, I prefer authentic parts. I have a replica Amuse front because my J's lip was destroyed and I needed a replacement. Fitment seemed decent and I didn't want to chance breaking another expensive piece on the front of my car. Simple as that.
In a perfect world I'd have a real Amuse bumper, but I would rather get these parts and be able to eat well, go out with friends, and in general live a life that I enjoy (other hobbies etc). I know I could have saved another 6 months to a year and gone with authentic Amuse. But I didn't, I chose to save money and put it into new furniture for my new townhouse, paying down my CC debt, and having some fun with friends.
I don't care if you're a authentic purist or rockin fake kits, rotas, or whatever. So long as you're personally happy with your car, what does it really matter? Yes, companies put money into R&D to make their products, but that doesn't mean they need to cost an arm and a leg. Greg over at GT Motoring is developing some sick parts for our cars (I'm sure he'll be posting about them soon) and from my conversations with him, the prices are fairly reasonable. He's a small business and researching all of the parts himself.
Oh, and J's Racing doesn't design ALL of their parts, their hoods and diffuser are made by First Molding in Japan.
But, as I stated first, the debate is meaningless. Yes, fake parts do effect the real manufacturers numbers, but it doesn't seem to be hurting them all too bad. I'm really happy to see some companies take it upon themselves to develop some cool stuff for the s2000 and at the same time keep the prices reasonable, Password JDM has some exciting stuff coming out and I know GT Motoring has some really sweet stuff in the works. We're currently in a GREAT time to own an s2000 IMO, tons of aftermarket support already out and some companies stepping up and creating even more for us to choose from.
do what your wallet can afford.i buy what i can afford but i always make sure that what i buy is quality. be it a $3k BBK or a $20 shift boot it has to have quality to it.
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Originally Posted by Redliner16,Jun 12 2008, 05:59 AM
honestly i think the only replica product that i came across that i actually liked was the shine asm bumper:
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I had a Top Secret and Amuse real front bumper and the fit was also not 100%. Had an seibon TS style hood and the fit was just like stock. I dont really like people making up stories about horrible fitments
If you want to support J's buy the real deal. If you are broke, buy a replica.
If you want to support J's buy the real deal. If you are broke, buy a replica.
