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Do I have to call on WRS2K to back me up? He hates turbos..
BTW I put that pic in my signature because I totally expected you to bag on it and you did. You took the bait. So predictable...

 

1.) I am not sure what a hater is, since I am not american and some terms are used only locally. If you think I hate someone, or am jealous because I can not afford to buy those parts, that I feel for you.
2)yes I am young, I got my first S when I was 22, bought it used, paid cash, sold it and bought a almost new one (2000miles) cash. Now I'm 24, still young though, but I miss the point how age has something to do with this. If low age has anything to do with a intake for 3grand, let me know.

To clear things up, don't let us talk about if it is a good or bad thing to spend this much money on an intake, but how the hell can ASM ask this much for it and what sense does it make to produce such parts?

I would like to sum things up for you:

1) I see a thread, have a look and post MY OPINION that I can not understand/justify spending 3K on a CF tumor
2) I did not call any names, nor did I say that he is an idiot for getting that part. I was just HONESTLY curious what makes someone (no matter how much he earns) pay this much money for this sort of JDM bling.
3) You probably know him, his friend or come from the same area ( I have no idea) and felt like you have to trow some $hit at me, even though the $hit will be REALLY REALLY cheap and has nothing at all to do with the subject.

Point here:

Intake is a performance part, designed to produce MORE power. I stated that it was half the money of a turbo kit (turbo kit=designed to produce power) and you just let go and come up with NA vs FI, Ferrari is moe impressive than Honda, comments on where I come from and you felt like it's time to unveil some hot background information on high compression+turbo, honda intensions with this engine and engine life.

Best of all, you think how smart you are and how you look at me from above. I love it

If it wasn't for you, I would still think that :

Honda designed a 11:1 compression engine to run 2bar of boost on it
Ferrari is a reliable car
Turbo increases engine life

Actually I have to thank you for free education
Since I don't give a rats ass for JDM parts as well, I guess it's time to get some Mugen socks for my engine bay

I proved nothing with my post? What did you prove? Being the master of off topic comments?

 

PM from JsAP1:

They are my friends. Come on. You would stick up for your friends right? I know you would. $3000 is a lot for that intake but some of us (as stated) can get it used or $1400. Thats much more reasonable and I told him that $3000 price is a little too much but I cant bash who he bought it from because they hook me up with parts for cheap... I like free stuff and discounts as much as the next guy. Dont you.
I jumped around because I wanted to point out to people that you can get a NA CRX and get it up to 350 hp. IMO thats faster than a bolt on supercharger s2k and bolt on turbo charger s2k. Especially when I see low 11 second timeslips vs a bolt on SC s2k running 13s..I know turbo is different. But I am talking boosted... I took the post down because your civilized when you want to be. So am I. Bottom line is I agree with you that its way to much but to call it a tumor (some members actually have malignant tumors that they cant cure or treat) thats cheesy to me. and it offended some of my friends so I talked back to you...
Thats like calling someone retarded. I think thats way out of line. Retardation is a disease that some people are born with and cant help it and for people to make fun of them or call other people retarded is way out of line IMO so thats why I got in your face...



So let me get this straight...3000USD is too much, you admit it but when someone else is saying that, we call it HATING (i think I know what hating means, it's the opposite of dick-holding and ass-licking ). After coming up with a 650hp Ferrari, 700hp Civic, we are talking now about SC s2000 VS a 350hp CRX....Let me tell you that I can take my wife into a 5 star hotel for dinner in my turbo S, please do the same with a 350hp CRX

Man I love getting paid for this

 

He does have a point. With mods like that you have less opportunity to overstress your engine as they won't do bugger all for it.

Put on a turbo and you increase power and hence have the opportunity to overstress your engine.

But the fact is, if you limit your high compression, well tuned turbo engine to the same hp limits as NA then it will last just as long.

It's a bit like saying Top Fuel dragsters are no good because the engine only lasts 6 seconds. Maybe Mr NA JDM should try and convince the Top Fuel teams they should get rid of FI?

NA guys will go on and on about the merits of NA. Unfortunately they'll have to speak up as I can't hear them when they are that far behind.

 

Man I'm glad you joined the party.
I have tryed to keep it NA for 2 years, cost me alot of $$$ and look what we've got...25-30whp?
Sure a 350hp CRX will be faster on a track (the one with corners I mean) than my turbo S, but is the CRX having it's stock 1.6liter?Does it have leather seats? Does it turn heads? NA is a nice way to go, but not with the S and not if you wanna play with the bigger boys out there
Just a note:

Since I got the turbo,I rev my car to only 5K if I wanna go faster than 99% of the cars out there, if I want to enjoy "spirited" driving, I bring her up to 7.5-8k..only when there is serious competition I hit 9k.
You poor NA guys need to rev the shit ouf of it on your way to McDriveInn, and correct me if I'm wrong, but 9k is a hell lot of stress, isn't?

 

My crx has got leather seats , power windows , mirrors and sunroof . And alot of people still like to see a nice crx driving around ,so it still turns heads .
So dont bash on a crx , its a very nice "old" car .

 

I forgot about that. And even today I was amazed at how I now drive below VTEC a lot more as it is 'enough' for most street driving. I was even thinking that with conservative tuning mileage could actually be better than stock in certain uses.

At the end of the day we're never going to convince the NA Zealots. But what does it really matter. We know the truth and everyone else can make up their own minds.

 

^you remind me of x-files...''the truth is out there'' he he

 

wow, this thread has taken another twist.

I've considered turbocharge applications for the S2000, but reliability issues have shelved those plans. I drive +30,000 miles a year and cannot afford for my car to be in the shop for an extended period of time. My wife wouldn't be happy with drop-off/pick-up to the hospital on down-days. Same reasons why I wouldn't do ITBs either.

Until I see a 100,000-mile reliable turbo S2000 like the turbocharged Miatas, this simply is not an option and NA is the way to go.

Regarding keeping the car at low revs, seems rather pointless. This car was made to be revved at higher RPMs into VTEC and begs to be in that stratospheric range at all times. If I wanted more torque, an M3 would be a better choice IMHO.

Regarding tumors, they tend to grow unabated because of immortal cell lines inherent from its mutations. I don't see my intake getting any larger. Tumors can also metastasize and spread to other organs. Unfortunately, I don't see my headers, pistons, or differential becoming carbon-fiber as the ASM intake flecks off carbon-fiber throughout the car. "Tumor" may be more applicable to a turbocharger as that can spread to the engine causing detonation.

Nothing against FI, I'm hoping my next car will be the Ariel Atom (s/c)

 

dibs on first to take a drive on your atom