I was disappointed when I saw no mounting brackets like the Mugen and what about the under brace where the Mugen mounts to the rebar? Does it have that? Also does it mount to the front where the Mugen does? Sounds and looks like it just sits there and I know that Medical Student already had some issues with fitment. Not something I would want for $3000.

 

I have stuck to the points some of you refuse to see them.. To get through some of your thick skulls, I need to use props or other cars so you guys can understand what is trying to be said..

I brought the top NA Honda and matched it with the top Turbo S2k and the S2k is outclassed, outpowered, outpriced, and everything else...I was talking to Hrvvv..Have you even opened up a magazine with all these claimed over 400hp S2ks daily driven? I am talking about the handfull of them here in California.. Not in Sydney.. You probably have no idea what I am talking about then. I know 4 right off the top of my head in Socal and Arizona that are claimed over 400hp..So your going to sit there and tell me you would spend $6000 and number one VOID WARRANTY. That right there should sum everything up with aftermarket turbos.. Next YOU CANT SMOG... Another hint and no no in California and other states. Next YOU PAY OUT OF YOUR OWN pocket for parts that WILL start to go at 100,000 miles (this isnt if, its when). Which will be well over $2000 to start off...Then it goes up from there..

OR

You buy a $1400-$3000 intake and YOU SMOG, and YOU KEEP YOUR WARRANTY, and it looks good and you wont have to worry about replacing parts (unless your a crazy driver) at 100,000 miles...

So what if a turbo S2k pulls on you by a few cars..Its not the end of the world right?

Thats a no brainer. On top of that you can still have the time of your life at 220 hp NA... The car still screams.. How about you put up a poll and ask everyone in S2000 talk if this car has great power and handling in OEM fashion...

 

are you talking to me now . I don't think I mentioned any s2k over 450hp.

By the way I thought the amuse S2k was 500hp?

 

i think the amuse s2k only hae less than 300 hp. maybe the new one...

 

I'm not convinced you do.

You have darted around and used all sorts of bizarre outlandish examples to promote your 'NA is better than FI' idealology and in the process just made youself look like a fool.

I don't know what particular turbo S2000s you are talking about and I don't really care. All I know is that with good tuning and restraint you can get a whole lot more from an FI S2000 than you could ever dream of keeping it NA. No it won't beat a nitrous powered NSX or a JGTC race car but it'll run rings around any NA S2000 and cared for appropriately, have very few reliability problems.

IMNSHO you'd be foolish to spend $3K on a bulbous intake. But you'd have to be a complete moron to keep coming back to a bulletin board and arguing for it's merits in the face of the obvious.

 

really? I don't know why but I think I rad it had 500hp. I'm talking about the turbo one by the way shoalin.

 

I never did say I payed that price now did I. Stop assuming again like you have done so already. I did not jump around at all. Maybe in your mind. I know what I am talking about. I have dealt with this NA VS turbo debate since 1991..

Please your already looking like a fool buddy if you want me to sit here and listen to how much better a boosted S2k is. Thats pathetic IMO. Lets just say for arguments sake I had this intake and got it for $1400. I doubt we would be having this debate..

LIKE I SAID FOR THE 3rd time now. One is not better than the other.. I prefer NA you dont. I gave you information that the top NA Honda will beat the top turbo Honda on a track event. Now if you want to talk about quarter mile times then we can talk about that too . Doesnt mean its better to everyone. To me yes. Get over it man, really. Everything I have said is true. Do some research. I can start you off with some websites and numbers if you like..

Ohh I just saw another one of your comments. You said a FI would run rings around a NA S2k? Ok lets put your FI car up to the challange against the NA powered ASM track car? Lets say 10 laps at 4 miles a lap...My money is on the NA S2k..Doesnt mean the car is better either.

They are at 2190 (2350 with driver) pounds at 305hp

Your at 2900 (3100 with driver) pounds at 325hp...

Now with that being said who do you think would overheat at the 5th lap?

Again this is all hypothetical but could be damn near true..

You do the math Mr. Wizard..

 

see again your comparing to a full built track car

 

It doesnt matter from what he said. He wasnt specific nor should I be. Bring what you got to race...Shit the street ASM or Js Racing S2k car would whoop a turbo S2k..


Dude lets get back on topic here.

Congrats to Medical Student for a nice new intake...

 

Is that the old "You are!" argument? I think I stopped using that when I was about 6.

BTW, it's "you're already looking like a fool".

[QUOTE]Lets just say for arguments sake I had this intake and got it for $1400.