man, that looks PIMP!

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by ccarnel
[B] The point about the cwest kit is that you are spending thousands of dollars on something with little benefit other than looks!

 

damn, maybe i should do mugen, lookiing at that red one now

 

MUGEN! The OEM can he had at any time, but isn't as rare as the MUGEN HARTOP!!! GET THE MUGEN!! Your car would be more unique that way, really!

 

Actually i think it should be argued. Tuning a piece of aerodynamic gear is a very time consuming process. You have made the mistake of thinking that providing downforce is the only component of the process. Creating downforce without excessive drag is the trick. Mugen's 3 piece wing coupled with the hardtop has proven to provide a great degree of downforce without much extra drag.
Of course somebody by pure luck might design a kit that adds downforce in the right places without minimal drag... but not very likely.
This is why airplanes, tunnels, bridges, buildings, race cars are designed by engineers (also why it takes a lot of money) Sorry but if it was so easy to be lucky, engineers would be out of business..

 

ccarnel, actually no. The 3pc wing is designed to work with the top down. Not with the hardtop. My point was that your statement "The point about the cwest kit is that you are spending thousands of dollars on something with little benefit other than looks!" is not necessary 100% true. You would have to do a hell of a lot of testing in order to prove a statement like that.

 

Damn teamredlines2k, how did you manage to ghetto-ize an s2000?

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by turbo_pwr
[B]when you sit back and look at your life is that extra $2500 better spent somewhere else.

 

Actually turbo pwr. The 3-piece wing is designed to work with the hardtop in mind... infact much better than without. I don't know where you got this information from but it works with or without but much better with the hardtop... as tested in the windtunnel. I just got off the phone with king motorsports and that is also the information they have. It also makes more sense considering that with hardtop off there is so much turbulant flow behind the open cabin.
I don't know why all of you are stuck on the mugen top being so much more expensive.... Everyone here claims they can get these hardtops for 2200-2300 dollars... well if you are going to make this claim... i just bought my brand new mugen ht for 2100 dollars with the group buy... add 350-400 dollars for paint and im still under the price for what most people will pay for the factory top...
Considering that the mugen top possibly adds more function and is the same price....(or quite close) it seems some of you have personal issues with mugen

Oh and yes... without extensive testing perhaps i cannot make definitive statements that the cwest kit isn't functional but with mugen pieces being comparable in price (like the mugen frp top vs honda oem) or perhaps the mugen front bumper vs the cwest bumper.... Ill take the well designed piece any day... especially when its virtually the same price...
Once again some people here seem to have personal issues with mugen

 

I stand corrected, then. I swore this was discussed before where the Mugen top was designed to work with the SS Wing while the 3pc wing is designed to work with no top. But since you got your information from the source itself. I will say I am wrong. I am curious then why all the pics I have ever seen with the hardtop being tested was with the SS wing? Every pic I have seen of the 3pc wing tested was with the top down.

You are correct I have personal issues with Mugen Have you ever even seen my signature? It's the same price in your mind fine. If you are going to take the best possible price GB price of 2100 and then add the 400 dollars for paint that is 2500. If I take the best possible price for the OEM hardtop that is 2000. So the difference would be $500, not something to just sneeze at. Apples to Apples my friend. Again if you are not tracking the car what the hell is the use of the functionality?