rear mounted radiator?
Imo this is a bad idea, done well.
The installation looks pretty good, but OP, if I were you, I'd look to modifying the radiator so it ducts from the front of the car and up through the hood. You've introduced a lot of complexity and risk for no gain here.
The installation looks pretty good, but OP, if I were you, I'd look to modifying the radiator so it ducts from the front of the car and up through the hood. You've introduced a lot of complexity and risk for no gain here.
Devin, thanks for the pics. I don't think I was clear with my question. I see how air exits the rear bumper. What I'm wondering is where the air enters in front of the radiator. Do you have some sort of opening in front of the radiator? Am I being clear? From the photos I have seen, it just looks like the radiator is in a closed box with some vents on the back.
Saki Gt, this will leave room for other things to be put in front and get a good flow of air and exit out of the hood.
Legal Bill, ok, I misunderstood you. Are you refferring to the bowl type thing in the trunk? Here are some pictures of the ground side of the radiator after the fans were put in front due to the fact they are pusher fans. In the previous photos they were just sitting so you could get the idea.
Legal Bill, ok, I misunderstood you. Are you refferring to the bowl type thing in the trunk? Here are some pictures of the ground side of the radiator after the fans were put in front due to the fact they are pusher fans. In the previous photos they were just sitting so you could get the idea.
hey, look at it this way, it'll be easy to bleed the system... wait...
i mean, least it'll be easy to add fluid to the radiator...wait...
erm... least you free'd up more luggage space... wait...
it's your daily? so, in a sense you've managed to:
- removed the AC, which makes it a livable car in the summer
- added dozen feet worth of piping that could fail, making it more maintenance prone
- possible water pump issues trying to keep up
- added a ton more fluid that you have to compensate for
- etc
I LOVE the ingenuity of it. I truly do. I love people who go "hey, this is broken, let me fix it..." or "hey, this is a bad design, let me improve on it." but, for a daily driver, seems like you've created more problems than solutions.
i mean, least it'll be easy to add fluid to the radiator...wait...
erm... least you free'd up more luggage space... wait...
it's your daily? so, in a sense you've managed to:
- removed the AC, which makes it a livable car in the summer
- added dozen feet worth of piping that could fail, making it more maintenance prone
- possible water pump issues trying to keep up
- added a ton more fluid that you have to compensate for
- etc
I LOVE the ingenuity of it. I truly do. I love people who go "hey, this is broken, let me fix it..." or "hey, this is a bad design, let me improve on it." but, for a daily driver, seems like you've created more problems than solutions.
form>function
I honestly think it looks pretty cool and i really like the vents you have in the rear bumper, might go ahead and do that for looks myself.
From an engineers standpoint (i'm a meche), You'll end up with much warmer air, drastically less air flow and i would really be surprised if your water pump can keep up with it long term. Do you have a boster pump inline to handle the extra length of tube and volume of collant?
I honestly think it looks pretty cool and i really like the vents you have in the rear bumper, might go ahead and do that for looks myself.
From an engineers standpoint (i'm a meche), You'll end up with much warmer air, drastically less air flow and i would really be surprised if your water pump can keep up with it long term. Do you have a boster pump inline to handle the extra length of tube and volume of collant?
Everyone makes valid points here but i guess we will have to see how it all works out. Though i feel, if you have the ingenuity to put something llike this together im sure you have the right thought process to work out a few bugs. Its like anything else, you dont know until you try. How would have ever thought people would be pushing 500whp and beyond on an stock s2k block...not many but it is being done with more and more frequency. If you have the will and the determination then goals can be met and roadblocks overcome.
As far as the daliy driver thing, I agree that this may pose more areas for potential problems and downtime with the car. But I have to admit it looks really cool and super clean.
Keep us posted on the results
As far as the daliy driver thing, I agree that this may pose more areas for potential problems and downtime with the car. But I have to admit it looks really cool and super clean.
Keep us posted on the results
exactly.. You DONT know till you try. And it WILL work, if not right away, then after slightly more modifications. To me that is the fun of it. Making something work that people say wont.
Or look at it this way. The turbo kits that you put on your car, do you think they made one and decided it was perfect before they put it in production? Its all called trial and error.
Haha, lets hope for a minimal trials and errors. lol
Or look at it this way. The turbo kits that you put on your car, do you think they made one and decided it was perfect before they put it in production? Its all called trial and error.
Haha, lets hope for a minimal trials and errors. lol
Yes, but before the trial and error part there's something else: laws of physics and proper design and engineering, none of which were applied here. The "trial and error" is really the fine tuning of a solid functional design foundation. Of course, this is all for looks so it doesn't really matter...
Originally Posted by X4DLuvOfSpeedX,Jan 24 2011, 12:25 PM
Yes, but before the trial and error part there's something else: laws of physics and proper design and engineering, none of which were applied here. The "trial and error" is really the fine tuning of a solid functional design foundation. Of course, this is all for looks so it doesn't really matter...
Math would be the fundumental step missing here.








