S2000 Modifications and Parts Discussions about aftermarket products and parts including reviews, information and opinion.
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: CARiD

Import Tuner

Thread Tools
 
Old Dec 19, 2008 | 01:24 PM
  #151  
nt7's Avatar
nt7
Registered User
 
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 4,413
Likes: 0
From: Utah
Default

Thanks very much for the PM
il do my part on this issue as well as talk to fellow moders

back on topic any other opinions out there?
Reply
Old Dec 28, 2008 | 12:49 PM
  #152  
shadwsndst's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 841
Likes: 0
From: Rancho Santa Margarita
Default

I just thought of a new idea:

Many vendors on these forums are major distributors for J's, ASM, Amuse. With their established business relationships they could work something out regarding this problem of Ti exhausts. How about one or a couple of these shops start employing or training individuals who are capable of welding and repairing the defective exhausts?

I realize sending out a new exhaust to cover the defective unit may be out of the question, but leaving owners to cover the bill on a defective part is just sad, and doesn't do much to build name brand loyalty or repeat customers.

Say an exhaust starts to rattle and fail within a 5 year period, the buyer, could send in exhaust to a shop have the exhaust repaired and sent back out. How about offering a loaner exhaust, while the repairs are being made? This seems to be a much cheaper solution to the problem, and will instill a sense of goodwill between the company (amuse, asm, etc) and the consumers.

Its a small thought, but a step in the right direction.
Reply
Old Dec 29, 2008 | 09:57 AM
  #153  
GT Motoring's Avatar
Former Sponsor
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 16,133
Likes: 2
From: Chicago Burbs
Default

Originally Posted by shadwsndst' date='Dec 28 2008, 01:49 PM
I just thought of a new idea:

Many vendors on these forums are major distributors for J's, ASM, Amuse. With their established business relationships they could work something out regarding this problem of Ti exhausts. How about one or a couple of these shops start employing or training individuals who are capable of welding and repairing the defective exhausts?

I realize sending out a new exhaust to cover the defective unit may be out of the question, but leaving owners to cover the bill on a defective part is just sad, and doesn't do much to build name brand loyalty or repeat customers.

Say an exhaust starts to rattle and fail within a 5 year period, the buyer, could send in exhaust to a shop have the exhaust repaired and sent back out. How about offering a loaner exhaust, while the repairs are being made? This seems to be a much cheaper solution to the problem, and will instill a sense of goodwill between the company (amuse, asm, etc) and the consumers.

Its a small thought, but a step in the right direction.
We've only had one Ti part break in the past 2-3 years on an exhaust. We did the repair here domestically. We have a local vendor we use for Titanium welding and other precision welding. Obviously any repair parts if required, we would have to source from the manufacturer if available. International warranty stuff can often be hard to arrange, but we try our best to help customers where and when we can if it occurs. i wouldnt expect any "lifetime" warranty on a titanium race exhaust.

Even most domestic brands or large japanese companies have limited warranty coverage on their stainless parts, FRP/CF parts are usually sold "as is" in most cases.
Reply
Old Dec 29, 2008 | 10:24 PM
  #154  
numberseven's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 177
Likes: 0
From: Lake Forest Park, WA
Default

[quote name='shadwsndst' date='Dec 19 2008, 08:58 AM']If I was a company
Reply
Old Dec 30, 2008 | 11:07 AM
  #155  
shadwsndst's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 841
Likes: 0
From: Rancho Santa Margarita
Default

Originally Posted by J's Racing' date='Dec 29 2008, 10:57 AM
We've only had one Ti part break in the past 2-3 years on an exhaust. We did the repair here domestically. We have a local vendor we use for Titanium welding and other precision welding. Obviously any repair parts if required, we would have to source from the manufacturer if available. International warranty stuff can often be hard to arrange, but we try our best to help customers where and when we can if it occurs. i wouldnt expect any "lifetime" warranty on a titanium race exhaust.

Even most domestic brands or large japanese companies have limited warranty coverage on their stainless parts, FRP/CF parts are usually sold "as is" in most cases.
If I remember correctly the earlier years resonated J's RS (now replaced by the FX series) had some issues. These instances are isolated, but to the people that they do happen to it can be a real disappointment. The most recent issue seems to be with the current ASM Line . Glad to hear you have had few issues from your customers and that the issue was resolved. I also agree, a "lifetime" warranty on any exhaust would be just short of ridiculous. I would be more concerned with premature failure.

JDM parts are have become almost synonymous with anything but what they are advertised as. Between fitment issues, high prices, inferior build quality, and poor customer service. I see little to be gained from purchusing original parts, most of which come from Japan.



Like Ive said before, I am excited to see what is on the drawing board from our stateside tuners.
Reply
Old Dec 30, 2008 | 12:22 PM
  #156  
nt7's Avatar
nt7
Registered User
 
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 4,413
Likes: 0
From: Utah
Default

Just to add a wondering statement; have you considered writing another letter to see what outcome it may bring?
Reply
Old Dec 30, 2008 | 03:07 PM
  #157  
Adrenalineaddict's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 16
Likes: 0
Default

dam dude, good write up but i think the Import Tuner editor isnt really a true tuner and from his standpoint (going to shows and reading about modding cars) he see's cheeper companies as enemies. Truley these smaller companies that make "Knock offs" are fueling the tuner industry but are (like u said) belittling the major companies in the process. The editer obviously has never tried to build up a car while in college or while he was low on funds. Also sometimes we forget that some wouldnt even know about the main companies if it wernt for cheep knock offs made in Tiwan to send the tuner looking for better material. Maby the companies should come to a solution like copyrighting their designs and making smaller companies pay them royalties for using them.
Overall nice job calling the dude out! i cant wait to see his response
Reply
Old Jan 2, 2009 | 12:03 PM
  #158  
shadwsndst's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 841
Likes: 0
From: Rancho Santa Margarita
Default

Originally Posted by nt7' date='Dec 30 2008, 01:22 PM
Just to add a wondering statement; have you considered writing another letter to see what outcome it may bring?
Not really. Ive resent the email twice with no response. I'm not looking for a feature in the magazine, but some response would be nice.
Reply
Old Jan 2, 2009 | 01:17 PM
  #159  
nt7's Avatar
nt7
Registered User
 
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 4,413
Likes: 0
From: Utah
Default

well at least you have tried which many of us have just sat by and watched
al be it i eargly sat by and watched for a response :smile:
Reply
Old Jan 13, 2009 | 09:17 AM
  #160  
shadwsndst's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 841
Likes: 0
From: Rancho Santa Margarita
Default

If they wont give up, neither will I:

Still no response.
Reply



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 06:28 AM.